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#21 Posted : 21 July 2015 01:44:10

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Thanks for the tip, Alan. BigGrin I wasn't sure if water would actually work, and remembered my dad using vinegar to un-glue a chair leg long long ago. Water would be preferable though, as it smells a whole lot better than vinegar.

I'm glad I spotted the problem before reaching a point where repairing it would have been more difficult. But, also a little disappointed that I didn't catch it when I was installing it. I was so focused on keeping it square to the keel that I didn't notice. But, it really was a good lesson. I'll be more observant in the future.
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#22 Posted : 23 July 2015 00:31:03

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Finishing up the bow infill. I'm hoping someone with more experience can take a look. I'm wondering if I've sanded it down far enough. It "feels" symmetrical. I sanded it with the contour of the bulkhead, but that leaves the bow formers somewhat inset. Hopefully you can see what I mean in the pic below.

Also, the voids in there are from my really poor notching of the balsa. I'm assuming that they aren't really going to hurt anything once both layers of planks are added. If they are, I think I can fill them easily enough... :P

Thanks in advance.

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#23 Posted : 23 July 2015 01:50:44

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Hi Broven
In my limited experience it looks to me like the top of your bow section looks fine because you have sanded down to the frames, but the bottom of the bow section could do with a bit more, you wont truly know until you get it on the false keel with a few ribs on and run a plank around it to see how it sits, i can only put a picture up of what i've done recently to give you a comparison.
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#24 Posted : 23 July 2015 02:03:50

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Thanks for the input Paul. BigGrin I was thinking that I should do what you suggested. It just made me nervous as it would require sanding a bit off of the bottom of the bulkhead.

I like the idea of trying a plank on it, just to see. All I have are the strakes for the launch. I'm not sure if they are similar to the planks for the hull though. I tried one of the strakes out, and it did seem to lie nicely on the bow, as far as I could tell. Heheh.

I see that you also filled the section immediately behind the bow. Did you do that to play it safe, or was there a more specific reason for it? Just curious. :)

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#25 Posted : 23 July 2015 02:58:19

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Hi Broven, I have to agree with Gibbo and wait until all the ribs have been fitted before taking any more off. Then you can fair all all the frames at the same time to get a nice flowing curve.
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#26 Posted : 23 July 2015 03:29:50

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Thanks nightwisher. I have sat here staring at it for an hour now, and I think I agree as well. I need to view the bow as part of the whole and not as an independent piece. It makes me think that the bow of each build is probably as unique as a fingerprint. Hehehe. I don't see how anyone could do it exactly the same as someone else. ;)
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#27 Posted : 23 July 2015 14:16:38

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Hi Tim, good progress to say the least.... Agree with what's already been said, you do need to continue to shape the bow some more however, I wouldn't do any more just yet until you are ready to start the planking phase. When you get to that stage you will be fairing all of the hull so you will be able to see clearer how the shapes of the bow and the stern will be. A look at the same stage here on my build should give you clearer idea.....Cool Cool ..

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Keep up the good work and keep the pics flowing. We're here if you need us.......Cool

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BigGrin looking good Tim cracking job Cool

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#29 Posted : 23 July 2015 16:01:40

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Doing a cracking job there Tim...Wink ThumpUp
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Broven wrote:
Thanks for the input Paul. BigGrin I was thinking that I should do what you suggested. It just made me nervous as it would require sanding a bit off of the bottom of the bulkhead.

I like the idea of trying a plank on it, just to see. All I have are the strakes for the launch. I'm not sure if they are similar to the planks for the hull though. I tried one of the strakes out, and it did seem to lie nicely on the bow, as far as I could tell. Heheh.

I see that you also filled the section immediately behind the bow. Did you do that to play it safe, or was there a more specific reason for it? Just curious. :)


Just to play it safe mate, had a bit left over so just chucked it in.
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#31 Posted : 25 July 2015 18:05:57

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Thanks for the kind words everyone. It's very encouraging! BigGrin

I've been a little lax on the photo's during the work week, but I've been making fair progress. Thought I would post a few pics now just to mark my progress.

The hull is essentially as done as it can be until my next package arrives. I was really happy to find that the deck pieces just slid right in.BigGrin I honestly expected that step to reveal alignment errors, but I guess all the fiddling with squaring paid off. (Sigh of relief...)




Here's a tighter shot of the cannons and anchor. I used the dark bronze paint from Admirality (it finally arrived from the UK this week), and made my first attempt at dry brushing to add a bit of black to darken it down a touch further. I need some practice at that technique lol. They aren't the best cannons I have seen, but I'm actually happy with the result (I think). I also used a little light stain on the anchor crossbar to give it some age.





A close-up of the launch frame. I should be ready to start straking tonight.Blink Blink A little nervous about that step, to be honest.





I've also yet to start on making the blocks. Another task I'm nervous about as the pieces are so tiny. My 2nd shipment is supposed to include a magnifying glass with helping hands on it as a free gift, so I think I'll wait for that before attempting these. In the meantime, I found a good use for an old pill-reminder to hold all the little bits and bobs.




That's it for now. Thanks for looking! And happy building. BigGrin
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#32 Posted : 25 July 2015 18:25:40

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BigGrin Looking very nice Tim just take your time and look at the instructions on the ships boat and you will be fine any problems just give us a shout Cool

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#33 Posted : 25 July 2015 18:42:48

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Thank you Martyn. BigGrin I appreciate you looking in. I am very impressed with how awesome your build turned out.
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#34 Posted : 25 July 2015 20:35:25

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BigGrin Hi Tim, A very nice start and the cannon look great. Sometimes we can be too critical of our own work so dont be too hard on yourselfCool
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#35 Posted : 25 July 2015 20:40:49

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Thank you apurchase. BigGrin I'll do my best to keep that advice in mind. Cool
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#36 Posted : 25 July 2015 21:11:13

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good progress Broven, you're doing a cracking job and i'm looking forward to seeing the rest of the build.
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#37 Posted : 26 July 2015 00:27:06

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Hi Tim, great work you're showing.... The fact that your false decks slid straight in with no adjustments shows the care and attention you are paying and that will stand you in good stead as the build progresses... Don't be concerned about planking the launch, judging by yours skills so far I cannot see you having too much of a problem so enjoy the experience..... Cool Cool .. Keep up the good work and keep the pics coming..... Cool Cool

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#38 Posted : 26 July 2015 17:18:45

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Thank you Paul and Alan. BigGrin It really is nice to get encouragement from all of the accomplished folks on here.

Kudos on your build diary btw, Alan. It's incredibly comprehensive, and I'm enjoying the work you've been doing. ThumpUp

Anyway, I finished fairing the launch, and eventually got up the courage to attempt the first pair of planks. I used PVA and found the clamping a bit fiddly. I think on the second row I'm going to try super glue as Tomick suggested in the official build. I'm hoping that the much shorter clamping time makes it a little easier to manage. We'll see. Cool



Thanks for looking, and happy building.BigGrin
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#39 Posted : 26 July 2015 17:39:51

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Looking good like alot 👍👌😀
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#40 Posted : 26 July 2015 17:42:25

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Thanks Nick BigGrin BigGrin
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