if deag said in the begining it would be built of basswood for easy building you would still have started and a lot more people who though coudnot do it would have tried knowing it would be easy with this type of wood how many people have tried this hobby and gave up be cause they could not bend the other types of wood,anny way you have the frame so plank it with what you want. its the frame thats important for the shape not the type of wood ,colour ,.stain

Forgot to mention that it is quite resilient to humidity!! great in our central heated houses!

I think most of us already knew that, but thanks for pointing it out anyway! as for humidity, are you saying that a hull made of walnut or rosewood wouldn't last as long as a hull made of lime?



I do disagree with you on the wood issue, as for looking ahead, well that's almost impossible with this build, seeing as we dont know whats ahead yet!



DeAgostini have not sated that their use of Basswood (Lime ) is being used because of it's ease of use, I said that! but if I had of know in the beginning that this was the main choice of material, I wouldn't have subscribed!
As far as the ribs being the most important? Sorry but I disagree, they are only the foundation for a good model, it's the material and craftsmanship that make a great model!!!



But you did say it, so point made!

Artesania Latina, do a full colour instruction booklet, along with various types of material, they dont have a Basswood hull, their ribs are also 6mm thick unlike our 4mm, this subscription is based on that model, so why is the Artesania Latina cheaper, oh and it comes with a full set of plans

As for bending walnut, Yes I have! on three ships now, and I found no issues with it! as for material, Im afraid I disagree with you again, the matreial does matter, especially when your paying for it, and no matter what skill craftsman you are, the material is the most important! that's why every kit manufacturer out there does incredible research on this before they start! including shipwrights!

but if my concern is wrong, why do you also wish there was a parts list and plans?

Best wishes
Me!

So what's your point?

Andy,
I'd like to associate myself with your thoughts. Whether you call it basewood or limewood the point is that additional cost is involved in making it something that it isn't by either staining or veneering.
I think Lonestar has a valid point that is neither lost nor diminished in an English lesson on quotation marks (we'll be getting into referencing either Chicago or Harvard systems next).
Lets all stay as shipmates and forge on with the build but I make this point to DeAgostini, we owe no loyalty to a company that doesnot recognise or support its client base. I accept that the company have acknowledged some errors after a great deal of representation i.e. the cannons, however; more could be done. Plans and a build list would be helpful. Surely with the time required for the order of base materials etc. the company must be working more than a few issues in advance. One would hope so at least.
With their expansion into other models it makes sense to retain a loyal client base doesn't it?

Here Here Col.

magpie 1832 wrote I subscribed on the knowledge from the Dvd and pictures that the wood was original not stained, Looking at the pictures in the mags and the dvd it is proper wood not stained. If they were thinking of the beginner as they say then why didn't they double plank as this is far easier for beginners than single planks in Walnut say. They have saved money on some parts so why not double plank with the savings made. But they haven't.

duble planking would be easy for beginners i dout it to do it right you use impact glue which gives you one chance to get it right, get it wrong you have to destroy the plank to start again which in turn destroys the first plank i know because it happen to me,just make shoure you have double the amount of planks you need be fore you start if you are a beginner, as it was SAID on an other page in this form use anny other type of glue on thin planks they warp

Thanks for the update, and if you read that message again, what you quoted me saying, has nothing to do with this post, as most subscribers back then were complaining about extras, this post is about the quality of the build and materials ie WOOD! so your use of this quote is pointless! but you do raise a good point too, I have always been the first to defend DeAg, but I feel I cant do this right now, not unless they come clean about what type of material were going to be getting in future issues, I have a right to ask questions, as does everyone else, but it seems lately, that anyone say anything bad about the build, gets attacked by the groupies! it's no wonder these days that people dont bother posting questions and have shied away! due to the bullish tactics of some!

Stop thinking about yourselves, and start thinking about others too, so to get back on topic, I ask the question again.

Dear Admin, can you please find out what material is going to be provided for the upper decks planking/fittings and fixtures please.

I wish I never open my mouth but I was concerned, afraid I was getting ripped off as these things were in the offering at the time I subscribed last May I didnt imagin them.

If I or others cannot voice their concerns on the forum without there being uproar where else is there.

As it happens I'm now pleased that most of the experience builders amongst us are not phased by the use of basswood/lime wood and stains. Good enough for me at the moment.

so if we have to stain the wood for different colours does that mean we will get them as part of the part work? i as many others assumed rightly or wrongly that we would get the end result shown on the adverts and issue 1 without extra costs. if i am wrong then so be it but as lonestar says would be nice to know in advance what future materials are going to be and perhaps even a list of what "other items" we are going to be required to buy extra to get the "museum quality" model we thought we were getting