Welcome Guest Search | Active Topics | Log In | Register

10 Pages <1234>»
Occre 1:24 Adler Locomotive Display Options
greyhawk
#21 Posted : 08 January 2017 19:27:41

Rank: Master

Active Service Medal: 500 post active service MedalPurple Medal: Super active service medal for 1000 postsBuild-Diary Medal: Build-Diary Medal of HonourRed Medal: Red Medal
Groups: Registered

Joined: 19/05/2015
Posts: 1,419
Points: 4,272
Location: Darmstadt, Germany
birdaj2
#22 Posted : 08 January 2017 20:21:22

Rank: Super-Elite

Publisher Medal: Featured Build of the MonthActive Service Medal: 500 post active service MedalPurple Medal: Super active service medal for 1000 postsTurquoise Medal: Turquoise Medal for model making know-how contributionBuild-Diary Medal: Build-Diary Medal of HonourRed Medal: Red Medal
Groups: Registered

Joined: 31/05/2010
Posts: 5,679
Points: 17,011
Location: Wiltshire
SUNDAY 08th January 2017 – The Adler Locomotive Build Commences.

Well now that the New Year is underway I thought it time to make a start on my Adler build.

As anyone that has looked at the kit reviews you will see that my hope is to build the locomotive kit along with the coach kit and display base.
In theory I could have made a start on any of these 3 elements but as each stage of the build depends on the earlier stages being finished to my liking it makes sense to start with the locomotive kit itself.

This is the Version 2 of the kit that has recently been issued by Occre. The earlier kit had no end of fit issues so with that in mind I am taking the build slow, checking and double checking as there are a few parts that could be incorrectly installed and this will cause problems later in the build. As and when I come across these I will call them out so that anyone else contemplating the build will have a few pointers for their own builds.

Been thinking about how best to present the build and as I do not use any of the photo sites it means its text followed by a group of pictures so to keep it in some sort of order I will number the pictures in each post and add text in a similar format – hope it meets with everyone’s approval.

PICTURE 1.

Only the very minimum of tools are needed at this stage. A sharp blade is a must and as the laser cut lines around the parts in the fret are some of the finest I have seen; it also needs to be a thin blade.
My preference when model making has always been the number 11 scalpel blade made by Swan Morton.

PICTURE 2.

To ensure we work with the correct parts (some look very similar) you really do need to work from this parts plan and number the wooden fret parts so that you do not make any mistakes.

PICTURE 3.

Most of the parts for these early build steps come out of this fret. It’s an MDF board and I have to say I have never seen parts packed in so tightly by a manufacturer to ensure as much of the wood sheet is used and not wasted.

This MDF board is 3mm thick and as such it’s important that when cutting through the tabs holding the parts in the fret you cut from both sides rather than trying to cut through in one go as you risk breaking the knife blade.

PICTURE 4.

As you can see from this picture it’s important to number up the parts as the boiler parts come from quite a variety of places on the fret.

PICTURE 5.

Here are the first parts removed from the fret that will be used to make up the boiler.

PICTURE 6.

The parts from this fret do have some very heavy ash from the laser cutting. To ensure the best possible glue joints it is really important to remove as much of this as possible. That said it needs to be done very carefully so as not to alter the shape of any of the parts through overzealous sanding.

PICTURE 7.

This is a dry fit of the 5 boiler parts just to ensure everything lines up before being glued together. This stage of the build will see 2 axle supports being glued into place but these need painting first in my view to ensure a neat finish before we start adding the boiler planking.

PICTURE 8.

To seal wooden parts prior to priming and top coating I will be making use of this product called “Sand n Seal” by Deluxe products. I have used it before and find it very good especially like the fact that it is water based and odourless so brushes can be rinsed out in ordinary water.
If you have this product you will be aware that it has a tendency to settle out over time so to get the best from it, I have added two steel paint mixing balls that are made by AK Interactive. Very important to ensure that they are stainless steel to ensure that no rusting occurs which can happen with some of the ball bearings you can buy.

PICTURE 9.

These are the first parts that go together to make the front end of the locomotive. In the earlier version of this kit the curved top was covered by wood planks which then had to be filled and sanded down. In this new version of the kit there is an extensive photo-etch set and this area is covered by parts from that fret (more on that once I reach that stage of the build).

PICURE 10.

And at this stage this is as far as I have progressed. The fret is reducing in terms of parts still to be used. But that said there is still a lot of work in front of me.


birdaj2 attached the following image(s):
DSCF1385.JPG
DSCF1386.JPG
DSCF1387.JPG
DSCF1389.JPG
DSCF1390.JPG
DSCF1393.JPG
DSCF1395.JPG
DSCF1396.JPG
DSCF1398.JPG
DSCF1399.JPG
DSCF1401.JPG
Happy Modelling

BUILDING: Hachette Spitfire Mk 1A, Constructo Mayflower
SUBSCRIPTION COMPLETE (Awaiting building): USS Constitution, Sovereign of the Seas, 1:200 Bismarck (Hachette)
COMPLETED: Porsche 911, E-Type Jaguar, Lam Countach
arpurchase
#23 Posted : 08 January 2017 22:22:41

Rank: Super-Elite

Publisher Medal: Featured Build of the MonthActive Service Medal: 500 post active service MedalPurple Medal: Super active service medal for 1000 postsTurquoise Medal: Turquoise Medal for model making know-how contributionOutstanding Build: An award for an outstanding buildBuild-Diary Medal: Build-Diary Medal of HonourRed Medal: Red Medal
Groups: Registered

Joined: 27/09/2011
Posts: 15,196
Points: 45,687
Location: Dudley
BigGrin Nice start TonyCool
Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .

tigerace
#24 Posted : 08 January 2017 22:54:13

Rank: Super-Elite

Publisher Medal: Featured Build of the MonthActive Service Medal: 500 post active service MedalPurple Medal: Super active service medal for 1000 postsBuild-Diary Medal: Build-Diary Medal of HonourRed Medal: Red Medal
Groups: Registered

Joined: 28/07/2014
Posts: 4,269
Points: 12,713
Location: Scotland
Great start TonyBigGrin really great looking kitDrool Drool regards Phil
COMING SOON =1/72 Italeri diorama`s Battle for the Reichstag and Stalingrad battle at the tractor factory 1/16 Trumpeter King Tiger with loads of extras ON THE GO= refurbishment of 1/25 Tamiya tiger 1 , amt Star trek kits and space 1999 models

So Much to Build,But What a Hobby!


delboy271155
#25 Posted : 08 January 2017 23:02:42

Rank: Super-Elite

Publisher Medal: Featured Build of the MonthActive Service Medal: 500 post active service MedalPurple Medal: Super active service medal for 1000 postsTurquoise Medal: Turquoise Medal for model making know-how contributionBuild-Diary Medal: Build-Diary Medal of HonourRed Medal: Red Medal
Groups: Registered, Forum Support Team, Administrators, Global Forum Support Team, Moderator, Official Builds

Joined: 09/11/2012
Posts: 8,520
Points: 24,651
Location: East midlands
Good to see you up and running with this one. BigGrin

Kit looks good and those frets waste next to nothing.Blink

Good luck with this one.

Regards
delboy271155
(Derek)
COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"






birdaj2
#26 Posted : 08 January 2017 23:10:41

Rank: Super-Elite

Publisher Medal: Featured Build of the MonthActive Service Medal: 500 post active service MedalPurple Medal: Super active service medal for 1000 postsTurquoise Medal: Turquoise Medal for model making know-how contributionBuild-Diary Medal: Build-Diary Medal of HonourRed Medal: Red Medal
Groups: Registered

Joined: 31/05/2010
Posts: 5,679
Points: 17,011
Location: Wiltshire
Andy/Phil/Derek

Many thanks for looking in and your comments.

Happy Modelling

BUILDING: Hachette Spitfire Mk 1A, Constructo Mayflower
SUBSCRIPTION COMPLETE (Awaiting building): USS Constitution, Sovereign of the Seas, 1:200 Bismarck (Hachette)
COMPLETED: Porsche 911, E-Type Jaguar, Lam Countach
Tomick
#27 Posted : 09 January 2017 14:00:36

Rank: Pro

Groups:

Joined: 24/08/2009
Posts: 48,827
Points: -13,348
Great to see this underway, good luck with the build Cool
darbyvet
#28 Posted : 09 January 2017 17:49:28

Rank: Super-Elite
Publisher Medal: Featured Build of the MonthActive Service Medal: 500 post active service MedalPurple Medal: Super active service medal for 1000 postsBuild-Diary Medal: Build-Diary Medal of HonourRed Medal: Red Medal
Groups: Registered

Joined: 17/12/2013
Posts: 3,982
Points: 11,974
Location: NY, USA
Great start Tony.Best of luck

Carl

birdaj2
#29 Posted : 15 January 2017 18:50:09

Rank: Super-Elite

Publisher Medal: Featured Build of the MonthActive Service Medal: 500 post active service MedalPurple Medal: Super active service medal for 1000 postsTurquoise Medal: Turquoise Medal for model making know-how contributionBuild-Diary Medal: Build-Diary Medal of HonourRed Medal: Red Medal
Groups: Registered

Joined: 31/05/2010
Posts: 5,679
Points: 17,011
Location: Wiltshire
SUNDAY 15th January 2017 – The Adler Locomotive Build

I hope that everyone has had a very good week. I still have the remnants of the cough left over from my “Christmas disease” but improving by the day and have been able to press on with some more updates to my build.
In the same vain as my earlier posting I have numbered up this week’s pictures and added some text below to explain what I have been doing.

PICTURE 1.

From the MDF fret we now cut out the parts that will make up the firebox end of the locomotive. This piece of the build is one of the more complex and uses a total 9 parts from the MDF fret (7 in this picture and the remaining 2 in Picture 4)

PICTURE 2.

“CALLOUT - PROCEED WITH CARE”

I did say that as and when known issues come along I would make a special note for anyone else that might be tempted with this kit.
Part 21 forms the back plate of the fire box and while it looks symmetrical it’s not. Occre do not mention this in the instructions so it would be easy to either try and force the part in and cause later fit issues or start sanding it down with similar results.
As you can see from the picture one side is 32mm long and the other 33mm. And this does match the slots this parts fit into so important to get it the right way around.

PICTURE 3.

Dry fitted at this stage but this is the end Part 21 mentioned above will be fitted.

PICTURE 4.

“CALLOUT - PROCEED WITH CARE”

While a number of the side parts are identical you need to be careful with these 2 parts numbered as 24 and 24A. While the overall dimensions are exactly the same the holes pre-drilled into these parts differ so really important to ensure you fit these to the correct sides of the fire box component.

PICTURE 5.

Once glued in place we are asked to glue in a small fillet of wood that will act as a support for the brass overlay which covers this part of the build.

PICTURE 6.

The front end of the loco is now fully dry and the next stage is to fill in the gaps highlighted by the arrow using 4 pieces of 2x2 mm wood strip.

PICTURE 7.

To cut this 2x2mm wood strip I used my Amati cutter which was the first unit that came to hand. It’s not one of the better cutters I use and find that the blade tends to “bend” on its way through the cut leaving an angled cut end rather that a nice straight cut.

PICTURE 8.

While the instructions call for just 4 pieces of 2x2mm per side and then the use of filler I decided the gap left a little large for filler alone. The area will not be brass coated so on that basis I want to minimise filler as wood being what it is will expand and contract over time and that could affect this area of the build.
So in that basis I used a further piece of 2x2mm cut in half to give me a 1x2mm piece to fit this area.

PICTURE 9.

One of the very “best” and “cheapest” clamps being used here – the good old trusted elastic band.

PICTURE 10 & 11.

Having rubbed down these infills this is the end result. In the pictures the remaining gaps (that the instructions tell you to fill) are very minor indeed. At this stage they are still to be filled

PICTURE 12.

The next stage is the boiler cladding and this is where the Version 2 kit from Occre differs from the earlier release. I did mention at the outset of this project that I had started the earlier version of the kit last year but due to major fit issues it was consigned to the “scrap Bin”.

This picture though shows more or less how far I got (it was when I started the chassis the fit issues came about and the build was scrapped).

In the earlier build the boiler is clad with 2x5mm wood strips but in the revised version we are given and told to use 2x3mm wood strips.

PICTURE 13.

“RECOMMENDATION”

Because we are dealing with very similar wood strips in terms of size (2mm & 3mm for instance) you may find an ordinary ruler does not always provide the measuring accuracy required.

What I can highly recommend for your tool box is a Vernier Caliper as you can see in this picture. It’s a really useful measuring instrument for internal and external as well as depth. Once you have something like this it will last a lifetime if well looked after.

PICTURE 14.

NOT ADDED

PICTURE 15.

To get the planking on even I have loose fitted the axle supports to allow the first couple of planks to be fitted nice and symmetrical. Because these need to be removed and fully painted in the next instalment or so it does mean at this stage I cannot fully clad the boiler.

Again elastic bands act as a suitable clamp while the glue on these planks is left to fully dry.

PICTURE 16.

Overhangs on the plank ends need to be very carefully rubbed down. I have gone as far as I can with the “heavy duty” paper on this end and will switch to a much finer paper to finish off in my next build session.
It’s really important here that we do not deform the MDF end plate or you will end up with gaps when it comes to gluing on the firebox and smoke stack ends.

You are also instructed to rub down the boiler sides to knock of the sharp edges of the planks. This needs to be very carefully down to ensure you do not put any flat spots on what should be a rounded boiler.

PICTURE 17.

And just to give an overview once the boiler is fully clad and rubbed down this is how the smoke stack and firebox components will be glued on.
Looks a bit of a “strange beasty” at this point I must say.

PICTURE 18.

The cladding of the boiler parts to provide the multitude of bolt heads on this version of the kit will be done with brass etch. In the earlier kit this feature was added by using rounded headed nails glued into pre-drilled holes on the ply parts in that particular kit.
This brass is extremely hard and a pronounced curve on both sheet supplied.

PICTURE 19.

To cut through the etch tabs you could at a press use a sharp craft knife but as the etch is thick and hard my preference is a pair of photo etch scissors which in this case are made by Xuron of the USA.

Well that is as far as I have progressed this week. Lots more to do and I hope to be able to post a further update next Sunday.
birdaj2 attached the following image(s):
Pic1.JPG
Pic2.JPG
Pic3.JPG
Pic4.JPG
Pic5.JPG
Pic6.JPG
Pic7.JPG
Pic8.JPG
Pic9.JPG
Pic10.JPG
Pic11.JPG
Pic12.JPG
Pic13.JPG
Pic15.JPG
Pic16.JPG
Pic17.JPG
Pic18.JPG
Pic19.JPG
Happy Modelling

BUILDING: Hachette Spitfire Mk 1A, Constructo Mayflower
SUBSCRIPTION COMPLETE (Awaiting building): USS Constitution, Sovereign of the Seas, 1:200 Bismarck (Hachette)
COMPLETED: Porsche 911, E-Type Jaguar, Lam Countach
arpurchase
#30 Posted : 15 January 2017 20:05:17

Rank: Super-Elite

Publisher Medal: Featured Build of the MonthActive Service Medal: 500 post active service MedalPurple Medal: Super active service medal for 1000 postsTurquoise Medal: Turquoise Medal for model making know-how contributionOutstanding Build: An award for an outstanding buildBuild-Diary Medal: Build-Diary Medal of HonourRed Medal: Red Medal
Groups: Registered

Joined: 27/09/2011
Posts: 15,196
Points: 45,687
Location: Dudley
BigGrin Starting to look like an engine now, nice workCool
Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .

birdaj2
#31 Posted : 15 January 2017 20:10:33

Rank: Super-Elite

Publisher Medal: Featured Build of the MonthActive Service Medal: 500 post active service MedalPurple Medal: Super active service medal for 1000 postsTurquoise Medal: Turquoise Medal for model making know-how contributionBuild-Diary Medal: Build-Diary Medal of HonourRed Medal: Red Medal
Groups: Registered

Joined: 31/05/2010
Posts: 5,679
Points: 17,011
Location: Wiltshire
Andy

Many thanks .
Happy Modelling

BUILDING: Hachette Spitfire Mk 1A, Constructo Mayflower
SUBSCRIPTION COMPLETE (Awaiting building): USS Constitution, Sovereign of the Seas, 1:200 Bismarck (Hachette)
COMPLETED: Porsche 911, E-Type Jaguar, Lam Countach
Martyn Ingram
#32 Posted : 15 January 2017 20:38:24

Rank: Super-Elite

Publisher Medal: Featured Build of the MonthActive Service Medal: 500 post active service MedalPurple Medal: Super active service medal for 1000 postsTurquoise Medal: Turquoise Medal for model making know-how contributionOutstanding Build: An award for an outstanding buildBuild-Diary Medal: Build-Diary Medal of HonourRed Medal: Red Medal
Groups: Registered

Joined: 17/02/2013
Posts: 3,262
Points: 9,862
Location: Kent
BigGrin Well done Tony it looks a very complex build Cool . Looking forward to seeing your next update Cool

Rgd Martyn
Building ?
Completed. Soliei Royal . Sovereign of the Seas . Virginia . Scotland . San Felipe . Corel vasa , Santisima Trinadad X section , Vasa
Next Build ?
When sailors have good wine, They think themselves in heaven for the time. John Baltharpe
davetwin
#33 Posted : 15 January 2017 22:16:35

Rank: Super-Elite
Publisher Medal: Featured Build of the MonthActive Service Medal: 500 post active service MedalPurple Medal: Super active service medal for 1000 postsOutstanding Build: An award for an outstanding buildBuild-Diary Medal: Build-Diary Medal of HonourRed Medal: Red Medal
Groups: Registered

Joined: 27/01/2014
Posts: 5,060
Points: 14,980
Really nice work Tony, making good progress.

I'll have to have a look at those PE scissors, I've got a pair of the Xuron Pro side cutters, they aren't cheap but have to be the best pair of cutters I've owned Cool
birdaj2
#34 Posted : 15 January 2017 22:19:02

Rank: Super-Elite

Publisher Medal: Featured Build of the MonthActive Service Medal: 500 post active service MedalPurple Medal: Super active service medal for 1000 postsTurquoise Medal: Turquoise Medal for model making know-how contributionBuild-Diary Medal: Build-Diary Medal of HonourRed Medal: Red Medal
Groups: Registered

Joined: 31/05/2010
Posts: 5,679
Points: 17,011
Location: Wiltshire
Martyn/Dave

Many thanks for the kind comments.

Hopefully next installment might see the first of the colour being added.
Happy Modelling

BUILDING: Hachette Spitfire Mk 1A, Constructo Mayflower
SUBSCRIPTION COMPLETE (Awaiting building): USS Constitution, Sovereign of the Seas, 1:200 Bismarck (Hachette)
COMPLETED: Porsche 911, E-Type Jaguar, Lam Countach
darbyvet
#35 Posted : 15 January 2017 23:52:52

Rank: Super-Elite
Publisher Medal: Featured Build of the MonthActive Service Medal: 500 post active service MedalPurple Medal: Super active service medal for 1000 postsBuild-Diary Medal: Build-Diary Medal of HonourRed Medal: Red Medal
Groups: Registered

Joined: 17/12/2013
Posts: 3,982
Points: 11,974
Location: NY, USA
Looking great Tony,
these kits look deceptively simple on paper, but once you start building them they are quite tricky.You are doing an excellent job.


Carl

delboy271155
#36 Posted : 16 January 2017 08:34:07

Rank: Super-Elite

Publisher Medal: Featured Build of the MonthActive Service Medal: 500 post active service MedalPurple Medal: Super active service medal for 1000 postsTurquoise Medal: Turquoise Medal for model making know-how contributionBuild-Diary Medal: Build-Diary Medal of HonourRed Medal: Red Medal
Groups: Registered, Forum Support Team, Administrators, Global Forum Support Team, Moderator, Official Builds

Joined: 09/11/2012
Posts: 8,520
Points: 24,651
Location: East midlands
Hi Tony,BigGrin

Progressing well Cool

This diary is well set out and a pleasure to follow.

Some nice tips along the way and I can also highly recommend a vernier gauge as an addition to a tool kit. They are readily available on the web and come in varying quality so don`t just go for the cheapest. I went for a digital LCD readout version to aid the old eyes.Blink

Keep up the good work, I`m looking forward to the next update.

Regards
delboy271155
(Derek)
COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"






birdaj2
#37 Posted : 16 January 2017 09:15:38

Rank: Super-Elite

Publisher Medal: Featured Build of the MonthActive Service Medal: 500 post active service MedalPurple Medal: Super active service medal for 1000 postsTurquoise Medal: Turquoise Medal for model making know-how contributionBuild-Diary Medal: Build-Diary Medal of HonourRed Medal: Red Medal
Groups: Registered

Joined: 31/05/2010
Posts: 5,679
Points: 17,011
Location: Wiltshire
Carl/Derek

Many thanks for looking in.

Happy Modelling

BUILDING: Hachette Spitfire Mk 1A, Constructo Mayflower
SUBSCRIPTION COMPLETE (Awaiting building): USS Constitution, Sovereign of the Seas, 1:200 Bismarck (Hachette)
COMPLETED: Porsche 911, E-Type Jaguar, Lam Countach
ModelMania
#38 Posted : 17 January 2017 13:09:15

Rank: Pro

Groups:

Joined: 24/08/2009
Posts: 48,827
Points: -13,348
Excellent work so far Tony, looking really good, well done. Drool Cool ThumpUp

I keep meaning to get myself a pair of those Xuron etch scissors, they look very good, how have you found them, useful or not? Cool


Kev Smile
birdaj2
#39 Posted : 17 January 2017 13:53:15

Rank: Super-Elite

Publisher Medal: Featured Build of the MonthActive Service Medal: 500 post active service MedalPurple Medal: Super active service medal for 1000 postsTurquoise Medal: Turquoise Medal for model making know-how contributionBuild-Diary Medal: Build-Diary Medal of HonourRed Medal: Red Medal
Groups: Registered

Joined: 31/05/2010
Posts: 5,679
Points: 17,011
Location: Wiltshire
ModelMania wrote:
Excellent work so far Tony, looking really good, well done. [tasty] Cool ThumpUp

I keep meaning to get myself a pair of those Xuron etch scissors, they look very good, how have you found them, useful or not? Cool


Kev Smile


Kev

Many thanks for the kind comments.

At first i held off buying xuron as they are slightly expensive but in the end other things i was using either packed up on me or were useless. I purchased a set if these and they perform really well. The blades get into some of the odd sngles you find on etch frets as well. The only thing to watch out for is that you cut were you need to cut because these things will slice through very easily.

Been so impressed with the range i added in the xuron side cutters great for plastic model kits, the needle nose pliers and a set that holds model ship pins.

Been a while collecting these as i have to save my pennies but will say they out perform many of the cheaper cutters so will pay for themselves in the long run.

I will try and remember to post some pictures in my next update.

Happy Modelling

BUILDING: Hachette Spitfire Mk 1A, Constructo Mayflower
SUBSCRIPTION COMPLETE (Awaiting building): USS Constitution, Sovereign of the Seas, 1:200 Bismarck (Hachette)
COMPLETED: Porsche 911, E-Type Jaguar, Lam Countach
Tomick
#40 Posted : 17 January 2017 14:36:13

Rank: Pro

Groups:

Joined: 24/08/2009
Posts: 48,827
Points: -13,348
Looks a very interesting build and watching what is a pile of wood take shape into a famous loco, well done so far Cool
Users browsing this topic
Guest
10 Pages <1234>»
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Powered by YAF | YAF © 2003-2009, Yet Another Forum.NET
This page was generated in 0.278 seconds.
DeAgostini