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WHAT?????? £400.00 yer havi'n a laff,maclaren don't even pay that for the real ones.is this true senna????you recon your gonna get that sort of money???blimey you must have seen them commin' no wonder you wouldn't let the forum have them!!!! Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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karl1113 wrote:WHAT?????? £400.00 yer havi'n a laff,maclaren don't even pay that for the real ones.is this true senna????you recon your gonna get that sort of money???blimey you must have seen them commin' no wonder you wouldn't let the forum have them!!!! I'm not sure I understand what you mean Karl! I think it's becoming clear that I bought the full kit from Japan, from issue 1 to 65 with magazines and extras. It cost a fair whack to get me the inters but like anything, something is only worth what somebody is willing to pay. I don't believe I will get 400 quid for them, to be honest I ended up with 2 sets by default, I'll be putting one set on eBay and see what happens. I don't have a figure in my head. An seriously, if I could get you all a set I would, but seen as though I'm probably the only person in england with a set it puts it into perspective how rare these area to come accross. Building the McLaren MP4-23
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Senna94 wrote:karl1113 wrote:WHAT?????? £400.00 yer havi'n a laff,maclaren don't even pay that for the real ones.is this true senna????you recon your gonna get that sort of money???blimey you must have seen them commin' no wonder you wouldn't let the forum have them!!!! I'm not sure I understand what you mean Karl! I think it's becoming clear that I bought the full kit from Japan, from issue 1 to 65 with magazines and extras. It cost a fair whack to get me the inters but like anything, something is only worth what somebody is willing to pay. I don't believe I will get 400 quid for them, to be honest I ended up with 2 sets by default, I'll be putting one set on eBay and see what happens. I don't have a figure in my head. An seriously, if I could get you all a set I would, but seen as though I'm probably the only person in england with a set it puts it into perspective how rare these area to come accross. Hi Team these tyres are fetching mega money in Japan on Yahoo auction:- http://page19.auctions.y...p/jp/auction/x234685955 Check this site out,prices upwards of Yen 70,000 approx £600 anyone interested is going to need deep pockets  I personally will not be bidding I do not believe the product will enhance my build at such a high bidding war, I will continue to source a tyre that does not have any brand names attached, so not to break any patent laws, for the good of all members I hope I can be successful, if not at least I will have tried  Regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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yes mike I agree,common sense rules at last,If you do manage to track down a suitable tyre let us all know,I will try as well,and let everyone know. Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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karl1113 wrote:yes mike I agree,common sense rules at last,If you do manage to track down a suitable tyre let us all know,I will try as well,and let everyone know. Cheers Karl,common sence must prevail,for the sake of the forum members. If I find a suitable tyre,everyone will know Does it have to be a wet tyre, what about a slick?  Regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Might be an idea to take your tyre source into a new topic so as not to confuse the version being sold here.
A slick won't be suitable for this peiod of car, I believe grooved tyres were compulsary at the time and therefore a slick would be out of place, unless someone knows otherwise..
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Tomick wrote:Might be an idea to take your tyre source into a new topic so as not to confuse the version being sold here.
A slick won't be suitable for this peiod of car, I believe grooved tyres were compulsary at the time and therefore a slick would be out of place, unless someone knows otherwise.. A slick would at least give a good base to carve out the inter grooves! I was considering slicing the top layer of the supplied tyre off and starting from there.
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Karl - I'm not sure what your getting at, again, but if your implying that there was no common sense in the first place I'm not sure why you would think that. I got hold of the tires and you don't have them, if you want them but don't want to pay, that's up to you. I value your thoughts and opinions but please don't insult me saying I don't have any common sense. As a matter of fact I was just about to take out another sub as I wanted two sets of parts for display and/or collectors items, rather than me paying the sub and waiting I bought the whole kit with the tyres and helmet for less than I would have paid for the whole sub and no tires or helmet in the UK. That's common sense. It seems your a little wound up by the price tomick has mentioned, correct me if I'm wrong tomick but you were referring to how much I spent on getting the tires to me, and not an indication as to how much I would sell them for. For the record I wouldn't pay that, but if someone is willing to, it's up to them. The other set I have we're sent to me by a friend in Japan. Slick tires - for this car the used grooved tires, so slicks wouldn't match the car on authenticity but I'm sure they wouldn't look out of place. Oh and the F1 teams pay around £3000 for a set of tires, which is £750 a corner.... I'm not moaning or angry, just felt the record needed to be out straight. Building the McLaren MP4-23
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only1ianuk wrote:Tomick wrote:Might be an idea to take your tyre source into a new topic so as not to confuse the version being sold here.
A slick won't be suitable for this peiod of car, I believe grooved tyres were compulsary at the time and therefore a slick would be out of place, unless someone knows otherwise.. A slick would at least give a good base to carve out the inter grooves! I was considering slicing the top layer of the supplied tyre off and starting from there. If I couldn't get hold of a set that's what I was planning on doing... To get the right scale you could fill the grooves on the current tire you have, a spare for example, and then make a mould of it to reproduce it. Good luck though, doesn't look an easy job! Building the McLaren MP4-23
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Would it be possible to make resin moulds then cast from there. Im doing this for the Aston Martin rear wings to cut down on the massive weight
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I would like to have a go at reproducing those tyres, but having done it before in wax to get the tread patten I dont have a lathe with big enough bed to get the blank into the chuck. It could however be done from the original tyre the cast in resin, finally in rubber. Once the moulds are made it would be quite easy to reproduce. Let me know what you think
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Hi Danny. Any chance of some pics of the tyre rack without the tyres in the way. For anyone who might want to have a go at scratch building one. I have spares of the normal tyre and wouldn't mind some sort of rack to display them on. Thanks. Ian.
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noki49 wrote:Hi Danny. Any chance of some pics of the tyre rack without the tyres in the way. For anyone who might want to have a go at scratch building one. I have spares of the normal tyre and wouldn't mind some sort of rack to display them on. Thanks. Ian. Hi mate, Yeah sure, I'm on my last night shift so I'll put a couple of pics in a new thread for you tomorrow afternoon. Danny Building the McLaren MP4-23
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bigmal0 wrote: I would like to have a go at reproducing those tyres, but having done it before in wax to get the tread patten I dont have a lathe with big enough bed to get the blank into the chuck. It could however be done from the original tyre the cast in resin, finally in rubber. Once the moulds are made it would be quite easy to reproduce. Let me know what you think
Info on legality...Hi,
DeAgostini just want to clarify that our legal counsel has advised that any reproduction of McLaren products and designs need McLarens explicit consent.
If anyone is producing helmets or any other McLaren products with the intention to sell to others, this is clearly an infringement of McLarens rights.
Thanks Admin.
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Tomick wrote: Info on legality...
Hi,
DeAgostini just want to clarify that our legal counsel has advised that any reproduction of McLaren products and designs need McLarens explicit consent.
If anyone is producing helmets or any other McLaren products with the intention to sell to others, this is clearly an infringement of McLarens rights.
Thanks Admin.
Daft question but are the tyres a McLaren product?
Dave
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For the purpose of the model they are indeed and come under the overall licence.
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Is there any infringment of copyright in making a copy for our own use?
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Its generally accepted that for your own use it is okay.
The problem comes when items are being copied for the purpose of resale, where if the item has copyright, permission must be sought, for which a fee or cut of the potential business could be requested. In effect this then gives you licence to copy for the purpose of resale. Intended volume also has a large part to play.
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Tomick wrote:Its generally accepted that for your own use it is okay.
The problem comes when items are being copied for the purpose of resale, where if the item has copyright, permission must be sought, for which a fee or cut of the potential business could be requested. In effect this then gives you licence to copy for the purpose of resale. Intended volume also has a large part to play.
Many thx Tom
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