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Think i will use a cradle anyway, not sure I Trust my ship to pedestals.  Regards
Rob
Bridlington.
Built Flying Scotsman (Train). Collecting HMS VICTORY
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Hi Mo With regards to your question re securing the rigging with superglue, as the others have said be careful with the running rigging and only glue when the yard etc is in its final place! There is one other thing to watch out for however, one which I never considered and which is going to cost me a great deal of work (sometime in the future!) and that is where you intend to store your finished ship. My model of the Grimsby by Constructo was finished some years ago and I always intended to keep her in a perspex case, unfortunately there was no space to display her at that time and so she was stored safely away in the attic under a garden fleece to keep the dust off. Back then I hadn't yet fitted a skylight to the attic (which is where my actual workroom is) and the summer temperatures exceeded 120F and winter just above freezing. This daily temperature rise and fall played havoc with the poor girls rigging, both the running and standing rigging which had all been secured with a drop of superglue had suffered about 15% damage in the form of snapped threads, always at either a knot or a wooden block, the very places where the glue was applied!  So the advice is simple, by all means use the superglue (I fully intend to on my Victory) but ensure that your Surprise is kept in a stable temperature environment or else "Surprise will most definately NOT be on your side!" ey! I like that!!  First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault Index for the Victory diary is on page 1
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It's the devil and the Deep Blue Sea, I've had the same problem with PVA knots, when it's the knot that gave way. Super Glue is really tricky to use as a fraction too much of a squeeze and it 'wicks' everywhere, so you end up with a cm of rigid rope. I've tried a number of precision applicator bottles and can't say any one was better, I have seen somewhere some metal precision applicator sticks and might give them a try one day, but after many hundreds of knots I have just about mastered the technique. An interesting idea is the Caldercraft technique of using natural undyed rope for some of the standing rigging then dying it with Indian Ink in situ. This has the advantages of being easier to tie tighter knots in natural thread and the ink then also secures the knots once it dries.
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Hi Andy That's a good idea about the ink etc, as for me I've built up a sizable collection of threads between the Grimsby, Bounty and Victory kits and what I bought as extras so the d....d things are going to get used! With regards to applying superglue to the knots and rigging, I know what you mean about over applying! That was possibly part of the problem with Grimsby's snapped threads. Personally I don't use it now straight from the bottle or tube unless its the gel type. I have a set of old microscope slide preparation tools which includes a thin metal 'prong' about 2mm dia and about 1 1/4" long on a 3 1/2" aluminium handle. The end of the prong is rounded and is perfect for picking up a single drop of superglue from a little pool of the stuff on a piece of waste shiny cardboard, the handle makes it quite easy to reach even the interior parts of the rigging too! Good Building First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault Index for the Victory diary is on page 1
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Hi Plymouth, Excellent tip about the microscopy tools and some microscope slides would make a good surface for depositing the drop. You can get 50 for a couple of quid on EBay.
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Its me again, I have a problem with trying to identify the block's and there positions, It is quite a lengthy question, I have posted on my build diary and would love it if someone could help, See "surprise build by Mo " page 12 post No 236
Thanks MoMo
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hi rob,I used them on my cutty sark,wondered what they were called.  Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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Moriarity appears to have completed his build
http://forum.model-space...sts&t=3756&p=15
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Cheers Tom I will have a look Regards
Rob
Bridlington.
Built Flying Scotsman (Train). Collecting HMS VICTORY
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Hi all does anyone have one of these i can have please as!!! Regards
Rob
Bridlington.
Built Flying Scotsman (Train). Collecting HMS VICTORY
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