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thank you gents,as tomick said "the rolls royce of models. first set of lights complete.hours logged 21 hours.     Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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thanks gents,the comments are most welcome,I need the encouragement,today's building is a bit of a disaster,  when I finish the wiring,the next bit was fitting the lower deck,and lo and behold I could not get it in ,the reason my wiring stopped it!!!!! %^$&*()_"!+_)(*&^%$£"!,had to strip the lot out and start again WITH the lower gun deck installed. it is now re-wired and working,started dry fitting the gunports,and temp pinning the quarterdeck,glad I did as the ply doesn't like going round the bow,after a good soak around she went,now all the gunports pieces have to be fitted very accurately,so fairing the bow and stern has to be done bit at a time so that the lengths of ply fit both the stern and bow,when first dry fitted,they were 3mm,short,after head scratching it dawned on me that I hadn't faired the stern or the bow yet,in doing so the ply would fit. build log 38hrs. Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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Hi Karl. Looking very nice. Good job on the lighting look forward to seeing some more of your build. Ian  Current builds.Hachettes build the bismark,HMS Victory, HMS Hood.
Finished Builds Corel HMS Victory cross section.
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Keep at it Karl but no urgency, you'll be looking at around 2-3000 hrs for a stunning end result
Somewhere on the net was a guy who as a challenge built this model as fast as he could, I might be wrong but I seem to recall he got it down to about a 1000 hrs and a reasonable end result.
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Looking really good, can't wait to see the final effect. Based upon Toms calls I have about 1500 hours to go on mine!! “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
-Mark Twain
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thanks ian and tom,here are the bits of ply pre bent overnight,should be a bit easier.   Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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       this particular exercise has to be done with extreme care,the whole build from here on in depends on these gunports being lined up with each other. the lowest ply strip no matter how much adjustment I made ended up short by about 5mm.at the bow,so a filler will need to be used.apart from that,they went on reasonably well.build log time so far 46hrs. Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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am now at the stage of starting the planking,the middle gundeck is planked,there is no lower gundeck to do,I have to make a comment at this stage,the planking is 6mm,x 1.5mm. which I feel is a bit flimsy,and it made me wonder why the jotika prototype had so much filler,now I can see why,the second layer of planking is 1mm.x 5mm.walnut.so that will stiffen things up a bit. pic5 show the relative sizes of the deag vic. and the jotika vic.build log time:-48hrs.      Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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hi karl this build like all your builds very impressive studying them all with admiration cannot believe you been building models for 60 years you only look 45  val
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I yhank you soo much,you made a 68 year old man very happy.  Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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Looking good there Karl. I didn't realise that there was such a big difference in size. Well done. Rgds, Hans
"It's okay to make mistakes. mistakes are our teachers - they help us to to learn, even if it is painfully"
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Endeavour Cross section,D51
Completed: HMS Victory
Under the bench: Endeavour x 2,Sovereign of the Seas, Akagi and The Black Pearl!HMS Victory Cross Section
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thank you hans,their is quite a difference,surprised me too. Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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a small update on the planking.    the planking appears to be going well,keep those comments coming,good or bad,and I will try and answer honestly. Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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This is going to be very nice.
What makes a kit 'superior'
If this is the Rolls Royce of kits, what does it do better than the AL one?
Oh, and also, what do you do with all your completed builds? Surely there's no need for 6 giant Victory's in one house?
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the answer is, it doesn't do anything that the a/l version does. and if I had 10 victorys,why would that worry you????your not the one who has to find a home for them,the rolls royse bit,is,the quality of the parts,i.e.mike got the enhancements from caldercraft which were de-scaled from my one,so there;s your answer rob. Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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Hold up, I didn't mean anything funny about the all the models, I merely meant it as a lighthearted comment actually. It doesn't worry me at all. Bit annoyed about the harshness of the reply to be honest. I weren't having a pop.
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Hi Rob . I know you probably did not mean to offend Karl, but even I winced when I read your post. Maybe if you had added some smilies or something to show it was a light hearted question and inquiry?Its just an outside observation, so please dont think I am taking sides.
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rob,I gave a curt answer to a curt question,just step back and read it again.  Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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I think you're going a little over the top here Karl. I've already said I didn't mean anything by it. Christ, you're making me nervous about asking questions. I thought this was supposed to be a friendly forum.
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Hi Karl Hope all is well with you. Really interested in this build as its the first time I have seen the stages to the construction of this kit. Have you decided yet please if you will be painting this model or using stain and varnish? Hope the rest of your build goes well. Kind regards Tony Happy Modelling
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