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Looking forward to seeing this, love the titanic, are those windows in one of the pics decals? - they really don't look good, is there a replacement for these or do you have any ideas on adding better ones? I think its the blue "reflection" that just dosent look right. Cheers Steve
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stevie_o wrote:Looking forward to seeing this, love the titanic, are those windows in one of the pics decals? - they really don't look good, is there a replacement for these or do you have any ideas on adding better ones? I think its the blue "reflection" that just dosent look right. Cheers Steve Hi Steve, You are so right, they are paper decals.(Tacky) I have been given a link (posted above) for brass etch updates. That`s the good news. Bad news, as there are so many in the build, COST!!! Will be looking into making some form of replacement when I`ve worked out the total amount required. Thanks for looking in and the input. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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I didnt think youd be happy with those windows either The brass etch sounds the way to go - maybe with your ebay skills you will pick something up during the build! Good luck with it anyway. Steve
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Hi All, I have started the strip back to see what`s underneath The answer, NOT GOOD. Not a single laser cut edge cleaned before glueing. Rear rib put in wrong way round. Glue only touched where it was lucky. Now the latter comment was to be of my advantage. So where did I go with the recovery? Firstly, removed panels and planking from port and starboard sides. These had only been fixed to the central part of the hull. I have managed to rescue nearly all of the removed parts due to the bad fixing used. (A Result) Some parts had no glue at all applied, just pinned Cleaned up the edges of the ribs and here`s the results.Pic 1+2 Having turned it back to this point, I took a look at the stern. OMG OMG OMG The stern deck did not touch either the last rib or centre keel section. There were also 3 stern shaping sections to port and starboard. These were not touching, centre keel or stern rib, just stuck to the deck above. So, removed said parts and refitted the stern keel shaping pieces.Pic 3 So, where am I now? I hate the stick on paper deck details. Trying to source some affordable brass etch replacements. Will hold off replacing the the stern deck until I`ve worked out the Etch issue. I am going to have to put in some reinforcement, between ribs and decks due to the poor quality fixing. Then look at where best to balsa infill the rest of the hull. Will update soon (hopefully) with what will happen next. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) delboy271155 attached the following image(s): COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Lots of work needed before you will be able to progress Derek but when done I believe you have picked up an absolute gem of a model and cheaply too.... .. My wife is mad about the Titanic and if I had spotted this myself I would have bought it too... Look forward to seeing how you progress with it.... Regards Alan
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Gandale wrote:Lots of work needed before you will be able to progress Derek but when done I believe you have picked up an absolute gem of a model and cheaply too.... .. My wife is mad about the Titanic and if I had spotted this myself I would have bought it too... Look forward to seeing how you progress with it.... Regards Alan Hi Alan, Yep, there`s a lot to do, but this is a long term project and not just "I`ve got all the parts, so lets bash it out" type thing. I also have the un-envious task of trying to source affordable etch for deck ends, doors, portholes, etc etc etc Have found some,same scale, for a different kit. Only trouble is don`t know if it will still fit exactly and it`s more than two thirds the cost of the original kit(£400). Hey-Ho will keep looking as there`s no rush Thanks for looking in. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Hi All, Just given myself a serious headache. I have just been on the Minibrass website (link earlier in the diary) and priced up the total cost of fully etching this build. To etch: A,B,C and Prom decks (Bow Stern Port and Starboard) Cost £370 To etch as above plus extras: 3D Dome Air vents Windows Change Deck 1st clas Stairs Benches Bow and Stern Life boat covers Cost £556 Cornwall model boats do an etch kit and a detail kit. At the moment no available info as to what these kits have in them but total cost of the two kits is approx £220. Good job I`ve got time on my hands to keep the search going. Should anyone come across anything different, it would be if you could let me know. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Hi Derek What scale is this anyway? Is this based on the mantua kit at 1/200 scale? Steve
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stevie_o wrote:Hi Derek What scale is this anyway? Is this based on the mantua kit at 1/200 scale? Steve Hi Steve, This is the Hachette kit It comes with some metal castings and some brass etch, which look like railings and lifeboat davits (I think that`s the right term) 100 issue subscription (no longer available) Scale 1:250 Thanks for looking in Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Derek In a similar situation as you. Managed to get a bargain on a full unmade kit (it's based on the amati model by the way). From my investigations it seems amati still supply card for the cabins. One of there etch sets will give you exactly the same bits as with the hachette model, the other is similar but does include the bulwark covers (not the correct term) along the deck sides of the ship. Hachette skit has these in wood. Been thinking on a couple of options: 1. Go with the card overlays but cut out the windows ? Fiddly and probably not easy even with the sharpest of knives. 2. Try to find a rich widow and then buy the mini brass collection. Fat chance of that happening 3. Final thought is white plastic card. Windows and doors you may shout well mini brass do a windows set for 23 euros. No doors that I can see but looking at what they look like on the brass you could probable fabricate from plastic card again as they have no detail. Just a few thoughts as I am potentially years away from starting this one. I did come across the amati brass sets on a YouTube part 1 titanic build - if I can find it will post the link. Happy building Tony Happy Modelling
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birdaj2 wrote:Derek In a similar situation as you. Managed to get a bargain on a full unmade kit (it's based on the amati model by the way). From my investigations it seems amati still supply card for the cabins. One of there etch sets will give you exactly the same bits as with the hachette model, the other is similar but does include the bulwark covers (not the correct term) along the deck sides of the ship. Hachette skit has these in wood. Been thinking on a couple of options: 1. Go with the card overlays but cut out the windows ? Fiddly and probably not easy even with the sharpest of knives. 2. Try to find a rich widow and then buy the mini brass collection. Fat chance of that happening 3. Final thought is white plastic card. Windows and doors you may shout well mini brass do a windows set for 23 euros. No doors that I can see but looking at what they look like on the brass you could probable fabricate from plastic card again as they have no detail. Just a few thoughts as I am potentially years away from starting this one. I did come across the amati brass sets on a YouTube part 1 titanic build - if I can find it will post the link. Happy building Tony Cheers Tony, Thought the amati bits should fit, but wasn`t sure. Some of the minibrass smaller selections should look the part. I am going to chat with CMB, to see if I can get more info on there offerings. Happy building to you, Will keep in contact with my findings. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Derek This link reports most of the mini brass bulk heads as too tall and have to be sanded: http://www.google.co.uk/...p;bvm=bv.54176721,d.d2k
This is the YouTube video showing the amati parts -you get to see the etch sets I mentioned in my earlier post http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4wQufQqI2I
Kind regards Tony Happy Modelling
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Thanks very much for that Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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