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#41 Posted : 22 July 2016 21:34:12

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Looking really good Dave, starting to take shape now. It always nice to get some primer and paint on.
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#42 Posted : 22 July 2016 22:06:44

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Coming along nicely Dave.

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#43 Posted : 23 July 2016 18:29:55

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Thanks all for the comments

I started working today on the resin engines that I have, they are very nicely detailed compared to the plastic kit parts, its just a shame that the resin air intakes are gone as they would have made a really nice addition too.

This is the first time I have worked with resin. After recalling advice from others on here I set about cutting off the casting blocks and sanded down the edges until everything fit together nicely. This was done while the parts were wet to stop the dust getting everywhere, I also wore a mask just in case.

These are now ready for primer, in the meantime I had to butcher the underneath of the fuselage to enable the new engines to fit, a simple enough job of drilling some holes than a small hobby saw.

Thanks for the suggestion of Mr Surfacer 500 Kev for the seam lines. Ive had a close look in book "McDonnell F-4 Phantom Spirit of the Skies" and am now confident where I need to fill. It will probably need some rescribing afterwards which is something Ive never done before, however Ive just ordered a panel line scriber which should help.

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#44 Posted : 23 July 2016 20:17:16

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Nice looking exhaust cans Dave, they will look fantastic when painted, washed and dry brushed!! Good work on the surgery to the underside of the engine bays, always a scary moment when you start cutting great lumps of plastic away from a kit - there's no way back without a lot of work if you get it wrong - but it'll all look great when the resin is installed I'm sure.

When you come to do your rescribing of the panel lines use a hard edge to run the scriber along, if you try doing it freehand you'll likely end up with a wiggly panel line no matter how hard you try to keep it straight!! I use a bit of stiff 'Dymo' tape as a guide which has a low tack self-adhesive side to it which sticks to the plastic and won't move until you remove it after the rescribe? Dymo tape is cheap enough and readily available from most stationers like WH Smith or on fleabay.

Well done you for remembering to wet down the resin and using a mask, quite nasty stuff is resin dust, so always take precautions. I normally use one of those atomiser spray bottles (that the kitchen anti-bacterial sprays come in) to wet down my cutting mat as well as the resin and the saw blade and use surgical gloves and then clean up thoroughly afterwards? You can never be too careful!!


Kev
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#45 Posted : 22 August 2016 23:45:14

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Thanks for the comments all, and thanks Kev for the rescribing advice, the Dymo tape worked a trick, still a little work to be done with the scribing but now Im confident with a good result.

I have ploughed on with the construction with this and got most of it primed ready for paint. Just some drop tanks and gun pod left to assemble and clean up.

I must admit Im not really enjoying this build as much as I thought I would, Im thinking aircraft arent really for me. I will build another one just to make sure, it could just be that this one was started when the ex and I were still together, I want to get it finished so will crack on.

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#46 Posted : 23 August 2016 07:55:33

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Thats all taking shape very nicely Dave.

Its a fantastic looking aircraft just a shame that the British version seems next to impossible to get hold of.

Hope the rest of the build goes well for you.
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#47 Posted : 23 August 2016 08:03:20

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Your making a good job of this Dave, nice work.

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#48 Posted : 23 August 2016 08:22:45

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Keep the faith Dave you are doing a cracking job lovely work

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#49 Posted : 23 August 2016 15:27:08

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Nice work Dave, certainly cracking on with this and glad the Dymo tape worked for you, looks like you made a good job of the re-scribing. Forgot to mention, when you use the Dymo tape, cut it into thinner strips using a straight edge - I usually cut the tape into three or four strips from one width - that way it will comply to curved areas easier and sit down flatter, but it will also make your roll of tape last 3-4 times longer?

Sorry to hear that you didn't really enjoy this build and that you may not be building very many aircraft as a result, but I think you are right to maybe give it at least another try? I would suggest something with less fiddly bits and less weapons under the wings, which are always time consuming to make and can cause a bit of boredom to creep in? Maybe something like a sleek 1950's/60's jet - no propellers, no bombs or rockets, just a nice looking aircraft with clean lines (Gloster Meteor, MiG 15, NA F-86 Sabre, Hawker Hunter, that sort of thing?).

Looking good Dave, well done!!


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#50 Posted : 23 August 2016 15:58:49

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Looks really great Dave.I am sure the end result will be worth the effort.

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#51 Posted : 23 August 2016 17:43:57

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Thanks all for the comments.

Kev, I have an Eduard bi-plane in the stash which looks like it may be a good contender for the next plane.

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#52 Posted : 23 August 2016 22:07:50

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Hi Dave,

With you on the build issues you are having. I keep trying to re-kindle the build urge looking for something that i can complete without too many issues so fully appreciate how you feel but that said you are doing a great job on this one.

Maybe what we need on the forum is a "group build page" were all those interested could build and compare notes on a fairly low cost item and compare notes along the way.

After getting this far i do hope you manage to get this one finished.
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#53 Posted : 23 August 2016 23:09:38

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You may not be enjoying the build Dave but you're doing a very nice job of her.... keep at it, she'll be a great display piece when done....

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#55 Posted : 24 August 2016 07:32:44

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Looks good to me. Keep going, at least you can say you had a go at an aircraft. I like building them, just no room to display them.
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davetwin wrote:
..... Kev, I have an Eduard bi-plane in the stash which looks like it may be a good contender for the next plane.



Sounds interesting Dave, which biplane is it? If you've struggled for motivation with the Phantom I would be wary of making this your next build though, simply because they are very fiddly to say the least with the need to get the upper and lower wings and their struts all correctly aligned and then there's the dreaded rigging wires which can be a real soul destroyer if you've never attempted the process before, though some people prefer just to leave the rigging out and go with a more simplistic look?

Of course, I'd be keen to see ANY build of ANY aircraft subject on the forum, so I hope you won't give up too soon Dave, it is a great genre when you really get into it?

All the best,


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#57 Posted : 07 September 2016 19:28:34

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Im sorry Kev, I missed your reply here. The Bi Plane is the Eduard limited edition 1/48 Gladiator, it doesnt look to be too complicated, compared to some of the other planes I have at least.

I think the simplest one looks to be the old 1/24 Messerschmitt from Airfix.

Today I had the day off so started on laying down the final colours.

First I started with the preshading using German Grey, looks a little light but when I put the light grey on the belly of the Phantom the preshade worked really well, can just about make it out in the picture. I will have a bit of masking up to do on the bottom as the wheel wells are supposed to be white.

I have also cleaned up, primed and sprayed the drop tanks ready to attach to the wings. These were a pain to get done as they had a nice seam where they joined. Lots of filler sanding and cleaning to get to this point.

The gun pod has now been primed ready for its coat of paint too but no picture of that.

The sidewinders also have had their final white coat, although this was more like 20 coats to get a nice white finish. More to come.



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#58 Posted : 07 September 2016 19:48:38

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Very nice finish on the belly with the pre shading and she is coming together well.

I have built Eduard kits in the past and they are highly detailed with good and accurate panel lines. You will need to carefully line things up when joining fuselage halves or wings as locator pins are few and far between but by being careful when you do fix them together a good joint is possible.

The instructions are very good and I think you will have no probs with the Gladiator Kit.
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A fabulous update Dave and some very nice pre-shading, I think you were right to keep the pre-shading to a dark grey, where some would have used a much darker (almost black) colour. When your grey top coat has been sprayed it looks just about right, being just visible which is how it should be? Well done!!

The Eduard Gladiator sounds cool and would be one of the easier biplanes to tackle as a first attempt. Eduard are producing some cracking aircraft kits at the moment and I'm sure you'll have great fun putting your kit together Dave - it would be great if you could do a diary for it when you start?


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#60 Posted : 07 September 2016 20:32:45

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Nice job on the paint. The pre shade is spot on with the top coat, so easy to over cook it and you end up with a zebra! I likes it!
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