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RichieG wrote:. . As a side question, could you perhaps explain to me in a bit more detail how you managed to cut the hull planks to shape that required notches? I think that looks fantastic, but I can't quite see how you did such a precise job with it. Hi RichieG . . To answer your question may be I need some time and I'm not sure to be uderstood totally, but I'll try anyway. First I honestly have to say that my approach is completely theorical, many other possibilities are available, but, being me interested also in CAD software, I decided to follow this way. That is, yes, theorical but anyway it's right and works. The plans supplied in the kit did not include the hull shapes, the waterlines, etc, so I decided to do them using a CAD software and the framework from where I took the laser cut bulkheads. It's a long process that I do not think interesting to explain but the final result is a CAD file containing the hull in the three axis. You can se it in figure 01. At the two extremities are the body plans from the kit: midsip to poop on the left and the opposite on the right. In the middle, above the sheer plans and bottom the hull waterlines. These are all derived by the bulkheads and their position in the keel. The vertical numbered line are the locations of the ribs I need to build. Now I need for each numbered vertical line to determine the bulkhead shape, and to do this I adopted the opposite method I used in the first phase. The next picture shows how I derived frame 4 shape (the black lines). Once this is done it's simply a matter of obtaining a specular copy and the full frame shape is ready, to be printed and to prepare the wood tool for bonding shown previously. I hope this is understandable, other ask again. Regards, Jack.
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jack, that is pretty impressive, but I have to say that I'd be lying if I said I quite understood that whole process. But it's not exactly what my question was getting at. I may private message you about it.
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Tuesday, February 7, 2017Flu-like pandemic in my family . . . What written above I think justifies my long absence from this log. Personally I am still healthy, although I do not know if the matter is closed or will have a tail. If a tail will come surely it will be for me.
So I had not much time for modeling . . shown below is the situation today: one step at a time, slowly will come the goal.
A friendly greeting, Jack. 01 - 20170207_104732.jpg 02 - 20170207_111047.jpg 03 - 20170207_111022.jpg 04 - 20170207_111032.jpg 05 - 20170207_111027.jpg 06 - 20170207_111036.jpg
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Stunning work as always Jack I myself have been hit with the flu, it probably didn't help that I've just finished working 31 days straight covering other people who had the flu
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davetwin wrote:Stunning work as always Jack I myself have been hit with the flu, it probably didn't help that I've just finished working 31 days straight covering other people who had the flu Thank you very much for the comment. I hope you are now fully recovered from the flu . . Regards, Jack.
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Friday, February 17, 2017Finally, I almost finished this long and tedious task . . now only a few small details are still missing. While considering that I haven't spent a lot of time on shipmodeling in this period, due to various setbacks, it was still a job that has challenged the "prince" of ship modeling attitudes: being patient. Could I spend less time if I used the CA glue instead of the vinyl one?
Most probably, but certainly the strength of the joints would not be the same, and here it is necessary to emphasize that this framework, for this specific model, plays a structural role rather seriously. In fact, now that the skeleton is almost complete, it works very well as an element that keeps rigid and not deformable the whole hull. This wasn't the same before this task, when it appeared like an empty shell. However, to avoid more risks, I left two fixed reinforcements (visible in the photos) plus one removable, that I will disinstall at the proper moment; they should prevent the shell to change its original shape.
I consider myself quite satisfied with the result even though, after a closer inspection, not all the ribs are perfectly aligned, perpendicular and equally spaced between them. This goal seems like a pretty easy job to be achieved in the theory world, but incredibly difficult in practice. Indeed, probably impossible, because it is a problem that lies in the method of construction adopted, that is, 1) to prepare first the hull shell and 2) then subsequently build inside the backbone structure. There is the need to bend in the right shape every piece, to obtaining the correct bevel, to glue and clamp etc .. with all this matter to consider, errors of a few tenths of millimeter are very common.
Anyway it should be emphasized that very little of this complex rib structure will be really visible when all the remaining fitting details will be installed.
For this reason, to avoid hiding almost the incredibly profused workload to get here, I'm thinking to setup the bottom fitting not completely closed, perhaps completely removable, in order to see these interesting details.
We will see later. Now here are some photos of the model as it is today. Sincerely, Jack. 01 - 20170217_094533.jpg 02 - 20170217_094602.jpg 03 - 20170217_094623.jpg 04 - 20170217_094611.jpg 05 - 20170217_094631.jpg 06 - 20170217_094641.jpg
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Excellent work Jack. Very neat I must say. You've put a lot of thought, care and attention into this build. Completed projects: 1/43 scale Bedford HA van / 1/43 scale MG TD sports car Current projects: 1/48 scale U-boat [U230] Future projects: 1/148 scale railway diorama / 1/50 scale R/C Volvo F89 logging truck / 1/148 scale Thunderbirds Fireflash
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Monday, February 20th, 2017Keelson installed . . 01 - 20170221_084202.jpg 02 - 20170221_084249.jpg
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Agreed very neat and clean work. Looks fantastic!
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Friday & Saturday, March 17-18, 2017Some few progress after nearly a month's absence . . A lot of work will be hidden with the bottom timbers !! 01 - 20170316_203251.jpg 02 - 20170318_153309.jpg 03 - 20170318_153348.jpg 04 - 20170318_153339.jpg 05 - 20170318_153322.jpg 06 - 20170318_153333.jpg See you soon, Jack.
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Beautiful job Jack - very impressive.
Graeme
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Monday, March 20, 2017I finished the floor timbers installation . . In the first three images you can see how all the work done during the installation of the ribs is almost completely hidden. The two numbered floor timbers that you see must be redone because I put the numbering on the wrong side. Just stuff. 01 - 20170320_180428.jpg 02 - 20170320_180436.jpg 03 - 20170320_180449.jpg But I arranged that some timbers of the boat flooring can be removed; in this way it's possible to show, even if in a small way, the underlying work. The removable parts should be, once finished the model, spread properly on the boat bottom. 04 - 20170320_175905.jpg 05 - 20170320_175909.jpg 06 - 20170320_175913.jpg 07 - 20170320_175923.jpg I'm considering whether to treat the bottom with vinegar and iron wool, to make it aged. Similarly I made for the Gokstad viking ship model. I honestly do not know what to do because the only two, maybe three, Gajeta Falkusa existing today are recent replicas and, from their photos, they are beautiful new without any slightest aged area. What would you think? Finally a sincere agreement with the comment from Graeme ...... I really appreciate.
Greetings, Jack.
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Wednesday, March 22, 2017As anticipated, I selected a solution for the floor timbers not requiring aging. So I decided to dye lightly the limewood timbers, in my opinion too white. Accidentally happened that the dye was not uniformly absorbed by the wood and therefore has assumed a barely lived look.
Below I then begun to install additional decks at bow and stern, which are slightly raised above the main one. When finished they will be obviously dyed. 01 - 20170322_173409.jpg 02 - 20170322_173458.jpg 03 - 20170322_173420.jpg 04 - 20170322_173429.jpg Regards, Jack.
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Friday, March 24, 2017I completed the installation of the prow and poop floor timbers. Here I've also left some timbers removable in order to show the underlying parts. I've also installed two side stringers. 01 - 20170324_170234.jpg 02 - 20170324_170238.jpg 03 - 20170324_170241.jpg Regards, Jack.
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Just catching up on your build, its looking fantastic as always Jase “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” -Mark Twain
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Jack Such precision and craftsmanship its a treat to look at. Really beautiful model in the making. Happy Modelling
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Such beautiful work and attention to detail as always Jack. I pleasure to view
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Many thanks to all of you for the positive comments. Really appreciated. Jack.
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Big sorry for not seeing this build before. But wow that is some kit and workmanship Jack. Your doing a great job , the timber is nice and I love the way it's planked. Chris On the bench 1/350 Revell Tirpitz Platinum Edition (Pontos PE and Wooden deck) plus extra Eduard PE set and extra MK1 door sets.
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Tuesday, March 28, 2017A new small step forward: I have corrected a blunder that I discovered in the execution of the two floor decks at bow and stern. Now these two "decks" have the right length, 'cause before were too long, although on the plans there aren't the two small lateral extensions which unfortunately I could not totally eliminate. I hope that the replica shipbuilders will forgive me. For me this detail introduces an aesthetically improved element
Previously I installed, not without some difficulty, the two side counterwales. Unlike the stringer, the engravings on the counterwale are two. Now I became a master in its execution. When the boat will be completed with the so-called "falke", there will be three wales/counterwales per side, two outside of the hull, one inside.
Now it's time to study in deep the assembly instructions in cojunction with the plans to setup a proper planning for the next steps. They are not so obvious . .
Salutoni, Jack. 01 - 20170328_174827.jpg 02 - 20170328_174722.jpg 03 - 20170328_174815.jpg 04 - 20170328_174759.jpg
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