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Hi Carl, Coming along nicely. I haven't heard of 'extendrendermesh' before. Is it a Rhino plug-in? It sounds really cool. Kind regards, Garth "Measure twice, cut once!!!"
Finished!!! HMS Victory,
Current build: Black Pearl.
On hold: Bismarck, Golden Hind, Flying Scotsman, Victory Cross Section, SOTS, Tiger 1.
Wish list: USS Constitution.
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What a fun project Carl!  Has really fired up my imagination about getting Rhino. Will be following this. Regards, Phil W Completed projects: 1/43 scale Bedford HA van / 1/43 scale MG TD sports car
Current projects: 1/48 scale U-boat [U230]
Future projects: 1/148 scale railway diorama / 1/50 scale R/C Volvo F89 logging truck / 1/148 scale Thunderbirds Fireflash
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Garth wrote:Hi Carl,
Coming along nicely.
I haven't heard of 'extendrendermesh' before. Is it a Rhino plug-in? It sounds really cool.
Kind regards,
Garth No its a regular function.Since Rhino is basically a surface tool when you apply textures to objects they are not actually applied to the surface topology.So when you render the image you will see the surface texture, but when you export the .stl file the surface texture disappears. You can embed the texture into the surface using the displacement feature and then the extendrendermesh function add the surface texture to the mesh so when you export the image as a .stl the texture becomes part of the solid mesh.it takes quite a few steps to do and is a bit fussy like a lot of rhino functions, but if you get it to work it looks really good.I made a box and added a woodgrain texture to it and it worked well. I am mulling over adding a fine woodgrain texture to the cabin on the convert a car.If I do I will show the steps involved. Carl
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Carl If you can get a woodgrain finish on that it would be something very special. Love seeing all this 3d printing stuff being handled by someone who knows how it all works. I am about to start something new (well old and second hand but new to me) and just discovered some missing parts which 3d printing would be perfect for. For me in this instance though i have purchased a resin casting mini set so am going to give that a try to copy from one of the kit parts to make up the full number i need for the build. Robin with his d-day landing build is my inspiration for trying this resin casting process. Hope it all continues as well as its presently going for you. Tony Happy Modelling
BUILDING: Hachette Spitfire Mk 1A, Constructo Mayflower
SUBSCRIPTION COMPLETE (Awaiting building): USS Constitution, Sovereign of the Seas, 1:200 Bismarck (Hachette)
COMPLETED: Porsche 911, E-Type Jaguar, Lam Countach
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birdaj2 wrote:Carl
If you can get a woodgrain finish on that it would be something very special.
Love seeing all this 3d printing stuff being handled by someone who knows how it all works.
I am about to start something new (well old and second hand but new to me) and just discovered some missing parts which 3d printing would be perfect for.
For me in this instance though i have purchased a resin casting mini set so am going to give that a try to copy from one of the kit parts to make up the full number i need for the build.
Robin with his d-day landing build is my inspiration for trying this resin casting process.
Hope it all continues as well as its presently going for you.
Tony I think the resin casting is the way to go.I have duplicated parts and 3d printed them, but it is very time consuming and you have to get the measurements exactly right or the 3d parts wont fit properly.With the casting you will get a bit of shrinkage, but the parts usually fit well. Carl
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darbyvet wrote:birdaj2 wrote:Carl
If you can get a woodgrain finish on that it would be something very special.
Love seeing all this 3d printing stuff being handled by someone who knows how it all works.
I am about to start something new (well old and second hand but new to me) and just discovered some missing parts which 3d printing would be perfect for.
For me in this instance though i have purchased a resin casting mini set so am going to give that a try to copy from one of the kit parts to make up the full number i need for the build.
Robin with his d-day landing build is my inspiration for trying this resin casting process.
Hope it all continues as well as its presently going for you.
Tony I think the resin casting is the way to go.I have duplicated parts and 3d printed them, but it is very time consuming and you have to get the measurements exactly right or the 3d parts wont fit properly.With the casting you will get a bit of shrinkage, but the parts usually fit well. Carl Happy Modelling
BUILDING: Hachette Spitfire Mk 1A, Constructo Mayflower
SUBSCRIPTION COMPLETE (Awaiting building): USS Constitution, Sovereign of the Seas, 1:200 Bismarck (Hachette)
COMPLETED: Porsche 911, E-Type Jaguar, Lam Countach
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Am looking forward to seeing how the test print turns out Carl, hopefully all will go well.... Looks great....  Regards Alan
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Hi Carl, Thanks for your advice. Still not to sure how to go about it, but I'll fiddle a bit & see if I get it right. Kind regards, Garth "Measure twice, cut once!!!"
Finished!!! HMS Victory,
Current build: Black Pearl.
On hold: Bismarck, Golden Hind, Flying Scotsman, Victory Cross Section, SOTS, Tiger 1.
Wish list: USS Constitution.
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Garth wrote:Hi Carl,
Thanks for your advice.
Still not to sure how to go about it, but I'll fiddle a bit & see if I get it right.
Kind regards,
Garth here is a great tutorial on adding textures to object for 3d printing. FWIW I did it for the cabin on the convert a car and it didnt really look right. it made it look "too real" to me and since this was a cartoon car I figured it would look odd if I made it look too real. Carl https://www.youtube.com/...=8zcl6zccz9o&t=693s
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Hi Carl Coming on very nicely, looking forward to seeing this in the flesh so to speak. Great seeing the processes you do before hand. Mark Regards
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So the main design is finished. The next step is to break this down into parts for printing. Many of the parts are printable as they are, but I will need to put some alignment plugs on the parts to make it easier to assemble the parts. I am also going to 3d print a rough version.I have found sometimes when you actually print the 3d design it doesnt look right.I found that with the scooter and had to change the dimensions. darbyvet attached the following image(s):
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Carl Looks really good. Looking forward to seeing how it all prints out. I have just ordered ip some parts from shapeways but cannot help thinking if i had the skills (sadly lacking) it would have saved me some money. Hope it all continues well. Tony Happy Modelling
BUILDING: Hachette Spitfire Mk 1A, Constructo Mayflower
SUBSCRIPTION COMPLETE (Awaiting building): USS Constitution, Sovereign of the Seas, 1:200 Bismarck (Hachette)
COMPLETED: Porsche 911, E-Type Jaguar, Lam Countach
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Thanks Tony
shapeways prices are just ridiculous.They recently had a large price increase. I think they are realizing their days are numbered as more and more people buy their own 3d printers so they are making as much money as they can while they can.
Carl
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Just amazing what you’ve done. When I have more time I might start to have a dabble at the software process. Mark Regards
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So the next step is splitting up the car into separate parts for printing and making attachment point and plugs so once the parts are printed I can put them back together.If this were a styrene kit this would be the part where the separate parts are put on sprues and the alignment pins are added. I started with the hull.It is too big to fit in the printer so I split it into 2 parts and added some alignment plugs.The resin printer has problems with holes .The resin collects in the holes so you need to make sure the holes have a way for the resin to escape during the print process. I will repeat this process for the rest of the parts and will end up will multiple parts to print. The hull alone will take 30 hours to print. Carl darbyvet attached the following image(s):
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Carl This is is interesting seeing this all take shape. Tony Happy Modelling
BUILDING: Hachette Spitfire Mk 1A, Constructo Mayflower
SUBSCRIPTION COMPLETE (Awaiting building): USS Constitution, Sovereign of the Seas, 1:200 Bismarck (Hachette)
COMPLETED: Porsche 911, E-Type Jaguar, Lam Countach
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This is looking very impressive and I'm finding the whole process really interesting.... Well done and keep posting.... Regards Alan
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I did a test print with my FDM printer.This was a very rough print to see if the proportions of the car looked OK.I found a 1/16 cadillac kit that I can convert into the Ant Hill mobs car from Wacky races and I put the body shell next to the convert a car for scale.i think it looks good so I will keep it the size it is and continue splitting up the 3d model into printable parts. Carl darbyvet attached the following image(s):
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This is a really interesting project.
It's great to see it now beginning to take physical shape.
Roy.
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