Spot on Colin,I'll send you an email tomorrow with the speadsbeat attached ok!.

Darron

This method sounds very straight forward to me. Luckily I'm at the same stage as you.
I haven't even glued any of the main hull, just dry fitted it all together.
Im now over how awesome it looks, even at this stage, and now i want to get gluing.
I'm glad i saw this before i started.

Maybe you could also simply glue a larger square of scrap 1mm thick sheet which is 11x11mm inside by 14mm sq outside.
Making squares, with sq holes, with 2/3 mm thick sheeting instead would give you the edge/space for hinges for traps/coverings/lids. other details (hooks for lamps)
Any thicker may look out of scale.
I will use that excellent post by Darron to see it on paper.

I've started the sills first,change my mind and used 5mm.x 1mm. lime instead of 3x1mm.that was darren calculation of scale size.

I can see some upright too far forward,will adjust later.

This is what I had in mind.










I wonder if this way would be better, it would allow the shaping of the gun ports a little better. And then plank around the ports.

To all those experienced ship builders out there:
Whould this type of brass frames of any good for the gunport problem?
Found in a German Modelshop and at
Cornwalls.

Greetings, Mr.Quist

I've just had a quick look at McKays book on page 86 diargam D7 as shown earlier in this thread, showing the entry port and side ladder, this also shows the 3 gun ports from lower deck to middle and top.

Using my new digital callipers Ive measured the lower gun port (the scale of the drawing is 1/48, using Darrens excellent excel document these are the figures Ive got.

width in 1/48
22.89mm (rounded to 23mm) converted to 1/84, which makes 13mm
Height in 1/48
19.78mm (rounded to 20mm) converted to 1/84, which makes 11mm

now to check I'm on the right path (maths and numbers were never my strong point)

width in 1/192
5.39mm converted to 1/84 = 12.32mm
height in 1/192
4.84 converted to 1/84 = 11.06mm

so that would make on average the gun port size for our ship is 13mm x 11mm..yes, no?

reading Jotika's instructions it mentioned the gun ports of the lower decks and middle decks as having 1mm deep lip, the upper deck ports have no dip and are smaller in size.

Cheers Darren, I think the lids will have to be made to what ever size the individual builder has made there gun ports, I don't see it being a massive problem.

looking at the diagram (D7) my measurements were made including the surround, not the inside, so maybe a little smaller than 13x11.

To be honest we are talking almost 1mm, not going to be noticed by many

So for me I will sleep on what I want to do, which is probably cut to the size of the gunport lid and add the framing to that size.

The more I think on this its all down to personal choice if you want to move away from the official build but use the stock given in each issues and create the hull to a more authentic state or keep with the main official build, either way I don't think any one of those is wrong.

thanks Willz, I didnt know that so very helpfull, Im glad you got the same sort of figure, I will be re doing those calculation but converting them into /16 and /32, I made a paper scale convertor some years ago and found this way gives me the full measurment and no need to round the figure up.

Just used you suggestion on the calculator and it works, didn't know that either, thanks again mate.

Now to get the correct position of the gun ports on the lower deck, I'm sure its pretty much where the official build suggest but worth having a look anyway.

A few more AL build pictures from MSW, I'm sure they will help understand how and what goes where.





Notice the gun port near the bow, this is where a few people have put fillers, including me!!

Also worth noting is the first picture shows the gun port lining, as I thought, different colour stock and possible 1mm, which then reduces the port size perhaps to 11mm square.