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#61 Posted : 04 May 2015 18:50:04

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Looks Brilliant Stuart. Your doing an excellent job mate.

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#62 Posted : 04 May 2015 19:12:04

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BigGrin looks great, I have been sanding shaping today tooCool
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#63 Posted : 04 May 2015 20:19:49

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Brilliant Budgie!

I love Bismarck and it looks like you are doing an awesome shop of her.

I can relate to all the problems showing up in the close up shots as I found this myself when using the macro setting when building my Yamatao
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#64 Posted : 04 May 2015 20:33:22

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BigGrin Thanks for comments Gents

Bored Tidy up time......taking a break from the hull

Huh Need to decide soon static or R/C.....as getting close to screwing the decks down as i want the hull to deck join to be invisible and access to be via the superstructure if i go R/C so will need to get the rudders, motors and shafts in place

Cool Have been talking to my local hobby shop and they have given me advise on bits n bobs required and will keep me on track thru the r/c conversionCool

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#65 Posted : 04 May 2015 20:41:58

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#66 Posted : 04 May 2015 23:05:06

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This one on the water will look amazing... Looking forward to seeing you continue your great work Budgie..... Cool Cool .. Well done...

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#67 Posted : 06 May 2015 12:36:17

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Hi Budgie Looking Very good. Brings back some memoreys of when i done mine. have you decided if you are going down the R/c root yet. One little problem i remember doing the r/c version was the prop shafts go throgh one of the ribs near the stern the holes in the rib where to small for the prop shafts there was a lot of fiddling around to make them bigger.
Look forward to seeeing more of your build.
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#68 Posted : 08 May 2015 19:20:45

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BigGrin Hi Folks mentioned in earlier post "bored with gauzing the inside of the hull"
Cool Decided to designate the task

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#69 Posted : 08 May 2015 22:09:09

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Wow Stuart, you've been busy. The change from the last pics to these. Its coming along at a quick pace. Looking great.
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#70 Posted : 08 May 2015 23:03:33

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Love it, start them of young LOL LOL
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#71 Posted : 09 May 2015 11:18:51

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BigGrin Good Mornin' Folks

Cool Finished gauzing the inside of the hull

Cool I have temporarily screwed the deck down (will countersink the screws later)

Cool Photocopied the deck templates and stuck them to the deck using Elmers rubber cement (anti wrinkle on paper and should peel off quite easily once done)

Cool This will allow me to roughly cut out areas under the fwd/aft superstructure and barbettes for access once the deck is permanately fixed for access to running gear etc

Usualy a coaming protrudes up from the deck into the superstructure to hold it in place
But as the superstructure is not hollow i think i will have to put a ledge on the underside of the deck and build a base on the superstructures equal to the deck thickness

Confused Only issue i have been pondering over is access to the rudder area

Crying There is no superstructure to hide the cutout lines

This is the area where there is a swastika painted on the deck

My painting abilities are naff and i do not know if i could purchase a transfer to help disguise the cutaway part

Which brings me to my thoughts......why would a ship in time of war be displaying great big swastikas on the deck.....if it was purely ship to ship battles maybe... but in days of aviation with spotter planes,bombers etc... you would not need to bother getting out your ship recognition hand book

Blink Then i had a moment of inspiration .....when at sea did the swastikas get covered with some kind of cover such as tarpaulin.....this would satisfy my curiosity Cool and more importantly cover my cut out lines....

Cool if anyone can point me in the right direction for this i will be most grateful

As you can see in photos there is still a bit of work to be done to edges where deck joins the hull....nothing a bit of sanding or adding a thin veneer along the edge which will be addressed once deck permanately secured

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#72 Posted : 09 May 2015 21:51:09

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From memory, before sailing on her only mission, all of her camouflage livery was painted over, save for the bow and stern false waves, and the swastikas were painted over as well. The red area surrounding them was as well. The same colour as the hull I think. I have chosen to have it in the earlier half camo, where only the hull had the camo paint and not the super structure, and the full swastikas on both bow and stern.
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#73 Posted : 09 May 2015 23:49:21

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She's looking fab Budgie, credit to your skills....Drool Drool

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#74 Posted : 10 May 2015 00:23:13

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BigGrin Hi Budgie

I have to agree with Titanic when she sailed on her last mission just the bow and stern false waves were present the swastikas were also painted out, but in Ballard's book the paint has worn away to show there remnants. There is also dispute on the turret top colours as there was an order passed to paint them yellow so as to aid recognition by aircraft as they neared the coast of France but there is no evidence of this being done by eye witnesses at the final battle.

I have this book also which gives some great detail pictures,

http://www.militarymodel...battleship-bismark/7036

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BigGrin Cool Thanks for the info Gents much appreciated

Cool I would prefer the decking only,and adding the swastikas as like a lot of models was a bit daunting for me but if i decided to go that way and did not like the end result i can just paint over it as like the real ship

Seems like a win win situation Cool Thanks chaps

Roughly cut out the base for the removable section to sit on
I will tidy up along the edges once superstructures secured to it

Crying Only this morning i stuck a top on the fwd superstructure using wood glue and superglue where it was to be stuck to the plastic partsCrying

I wish i hadn't as it would have been easier to add the detail in that narrow walkway where the fwd and aft superstructure join.
There are bulkhead doors, painting and planking to be done in there

Confused Might cut it where i have just used wood glue and stick it back on laterConfused
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#76 Posted : 16 May 2015 20:12:09

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BigGrin Evenin' Folks.....not got as much done as i would have liked this week

Crying Too much humming and hawing over which paint to use..and getting nowhere fast

There are 2 bulkheads that face each other on the fwd and aft superstructure

There is no brass covering for those....expect it is coz no one can see much of that area.....but there is 9 brass bulkhead doors to go there which needs to be done now while i have access to the area before they are glued to the removeable base and a couple of plastic bits at the edges which can be glued further into the build
Cool As the doors are glued up off the deck i can slide the planking detail in there later

Blink Anyhoos

I sanded and sealed the bulkheads with diluted cellulose dope and it felt really smooth but when i sprayed them (Halfords grey primer) it looked like a minefieldLOL

I decided to rub back down and using a bit of filler i was still not happy when sprayed

Decided to rub back down yet again and cover the bulkheads in thin styrene which when sprayed i was content with apart from the shade of grey

The main colours used are supposed to be RAL7000 Rat with Tail(squirrel) grey for the hull and for the superstructure RAL7001 silver grey

These do not seem to equate exactly to other makes of paint?

Thought about using a light grey but which one? too much too choose from

Crying head hurtingBored Plus what format... brush, spray can or tinlets... which would require a crash course on using a spray gun

Nearly made up my mind when looking on line.. but looking at the colour on a pc doesn't neccessarily mean it will be the shade i like in reality

An Italian company does the RAL paint i require in spray cans but i thought it was a bit expensive.... until i compared with an alternative make...works out about the same price as when you get to the checkout there is the usual VAT, postage but a charge for hazardous goods as wellCursing

I have roughly cut out the area on the main deck for the removeable superstructure to sit in...now back to thinking of what paint????LOL
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#77 Posted : 16 May 2015 20:18:41

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BigGrin Coming along great Budgie keep the pics coming ThumpUp

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#78 Posted : 16 May 2015 21:08:21

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Looking brilliant nice tonseenthe little helper too

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#79 Posted : 16 May 2015 22:27:40

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I am really enjoying your build budgie, cant wait to see all the deck details starting to be added Cool Certainly sounds like you have had a bit of a nightmare with the paints.

Looking forwad to more Cool
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#80 Posted : 16 May 2015 23:50:05

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Looking great Budgie, looking forward to seeing the detail being added.... Cool Cool

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