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court orchard wrote:I've been trying to research the use of Sacrificial Anodes on the Bismarck, clearly they are on the Rudders and the Propeller Support Arms. But, I've come across an obscure reference to there being some on the Hull, near the deflectors . Also, on the Imperial War Museum Picture of the Tirpitz Rudder and Prop Shafts, after she turned Turtle, there are clearly Anodes on both sides of both Arms, but it looks like only 2. Therefore I am going to do the same on the Bismarck, as it reasonable to assume the arrangement would be similar, albeit 3. Therefore Opferanoden now on order from Germany. The anode arangment on Tirpitz is differnt. i have seen a couple of 1/200 Bismarks that have clearly used tirpitz referances. The kit arrangment on the rudders is correct. If you look at my build diary (post 64) you will see a link to a pick of the Bismarck wreck that shows she has 3 anodes on the screw supports. I am only unclear on if there is 3 on both supports so i chose just to do one but could well have been on both. “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” -Mark Twain
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jase wrote:court orchard wrote:I've been trying to research the use of Sacrificial Anodes on the Bismarck, clearly they are on the Rudders and the Propeller Support Arms. But, I've come across an obscure reference to there being some on the Hull, near the deflectors . Also, on the Imperial War Museum Picture of the Tirpitz Rudder and Prop Shafts, after she turned Turtle, there are clearly Anodes on both sides of both Arms, but it looks like only 2. Therefore I am going to do the same on the Bismarck, as it reasonable to assume the arrangement would be similar, albeit 3. Therefore Opferanoden now on order from Germany. The anode arangment on Tirpitz is differnt. i have seen a couple of 1/200 Bismarks that have clearly used tirpitz referances. The kit arrangment on the rudders is correct. If you look at my build diary (post 64) you will see a link to a pick of the Bismarck wreck that shows she has 3 anodes on the screw supports. I am only unclear on if there is 3 on both supports so i chose just to do one but could well have been on both. I agree Jase, the Anode arrangement on the Rudders is different for the Tirpitz. It's the arrangement on the Prop Supports that I think would be the same with mirrored Anodes on both Supports and both sides of each Support giving a total of 24 Anodes on the Prop Supports in addition to the 40 on the Rudders, which are, as you say, correctly placed on the Trumpeter Rudder. The very clear photo of the Tirpitz Prop Supports clearly shows that there were a total of at least 16 Anodes on them, 4 on each Arm or 8 per side, so it doesn't make sense that the Bismark would only have 3 on each side. Anyway it means I can add another 18 parts to my Mega Part Build
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I'm struggling with the MK1 Instruction Sheets, there are a number of errors and lots of parts are not referenced at all, particularly Ladders with a dozen or so not shown anywhere . This is a shame as the Etch is great, surely instructions of where they go is the easy part. I've given up trying to work out which ones to use on the Foretop Towers, as only one of the Mystery Ladders has the right number of Rungs and I need 3. Also the MK1 appears not to have all the Rails, certainly the lower pair on the Upper Foretop Tower are not provided. I'll just have to wait for the Eduard PE.
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court orchard wrote:I'm struggling with the MK1 Instruction Sheets, there are a number of errors and lots of parts are not referenced at all, particularly Ladders with a dozen or so not shown anywhere . This is a shame as the Etch is great, surely instructions of where they go is the easy part. I've given up trying to work out which ones to use on the Foretop Towers, as only one of the Mystery Ladders has the right number of Rungs and I need 3. Also the MK1 appears not to have all the Rails, certainly the lower pair on the Upper Foretop Tower are not provided. I'll just have to wait for the Eduard PE. I am working on the ships boats and have the same problem the instructions are not complete “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” -Mark Twain
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WEM have released their 1st 2 PE sets, nothing too exciting though. https://www.whiteensignmodels.com/latest-products/1/Today I'm going to laminate the MK1 instruction sheets, they are already showing signs of wear and tear, as I try and interpret them.
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Slow progress. Tools of the Trade, 15C Scalpel, Tamiya Grey Putty, PE Bending Jig and CA Applicator Tool. Foretop Towers with Portholes drilled through and MK1 PE added. The Funnel with the Trumpeter PE added and the Grills removed ready for the MK1 PE. Part Count 101.
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Nice to see you under way - there is a lot to do on the funnel “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” -Mark Twain
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jase wrote: Nice to see you under way - there is a lot to do on the funnel Thanks Jase, I have indeed slipped my moorings, but juggling 3 separate sets of Etch on about 30 sheets is doing my head in. I thought the Funnel looked a good thing to get stuck into, taking those trumpeter rail lines off with a Scalpel is fun and having carefully scraped out the vents, I'm thinking of cutting a hole now .
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Funnel PEI've added the Trumpeter Ducting PE and the MK Vents and Lower Ladders. the longer piece of Ducting is a bit of a pig as it has to be contoured in several places and is quite springy. The MK1 Ladder at 34 Rungs is the longest on the build and has a bend on the way up, you wouldn't want to try and fold this Ladders edges without a Bending Jig. I have not bent out the Vent Vanes yet to avoid damaging them whilst fitting all the Rails. I am waiting for the Eduard Rails as they have an easier fixing method than the MK1 ones. A minor point is that the Vents on the MK1 instructions are both numbered part E33, when in fact they are parts E32 and E33 which are mirror images and different. Part Count 110.
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The etch certainly makes a difference, nice work Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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arpurchase wrote: The etch certainly makes a difference, nice work Thanks Andy
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Have to agree Andy, the etch is really bringing your build to life. Think the detail is superb...... Nicely done... Regards Alan
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Gandale wrote:Have to agree Andy, the etch is really bringing your build to life. Think the detail is superb...... Nicely done... Regards Alan Thanks Alan
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Some random Bismarck stuff, WEMs rather underwhelming release of PE is not available yet, contrary to what their site said a couple of days ago. It's now is only pre-order for mid May. Pontos are to offer Resin parts for the missing Anchor Cluse Hoops, strange that no one else has offered a fix for this major emission. Anatomy of the Ship; Bismarck is being reprinted in September, that should get rid of the £500 used copies on Amazon.
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Nice work. my thought was to cut a hole for the vents but leave a mounting lip for the etch. If i may add a constructive comment - the louvre on the vents look like they are open a little wide Looking great “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” -Mark Twain
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jase wrote:Nice work. my thought was to cut a hole for the vents but leave a mounting lip for the etch. If i may add a constructive comment - the louvre on the vents look like they are open a little wide Looking great That's because they are not open at all, it must be the light reflecting off them that makes them look open. I decided to leave them closed until I've finished all the rails, as they look a little fragile and there's a lot of juggling to do get all those rails in the right positions. I think you are right maybe a hole would've been a better way to do it, would've been quicker too. PS did you see my earlier post about the window on the Forward Artillery Post it's missing as well!
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court orchard wrote:jase wrote:Nice work. my thought was to cut a hole for the vents but leave a mounting lip for the etch. If i may add a constructive comment - the louvre on the vents look like they are open a little wide Looking great That's because they are not open at all, it must be the light reflecting off them that makes them look open. I decided to leave them closed until I've finished all the rails, as they look a little fragile and there's a lot of juggling to do get all those rails in the right positions. I think you are right maybe a hole would've been a better way to do it, would've been quicker too. PS did you see my earlier post about the window on the Forward Artillery Post it's missing as well! Yes i did see your post thanks. have you spotted the two missing doors and the missing lift!! on the funnel? Check out page 80 of Anatomy for the lift “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.” -Mark Twain
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Nice work Andy, which makes you realise how much detail is missing fromthe base kit..
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