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Amazing attention to detail, very well done that man!! 
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I've now got most of the hoses around the engine. The gearbox oil cooler piping is my best guess as I'm putting on the slanting rear wing and the arrangement is different from the kit instructions. RM1 attached the following image(s):
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Attention now turns to the instrument cluster . I'm still working out a wiring arrangement but have started with the rev's cable and pressure hoses.RM1 attached the following image(s):
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Stunning stuff Malc  Spencer
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Awesome work Malc, that engine looks amazing, not to mention the detail on the dials
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Beautiful work Malc, I am seriously impressed and it comes across as being a real 'labour of love for you' my friend!!  
As far as the oil cooler plumbing goes, I think you've got it about right? Who's to say it's wrong anyway as they very often changed things from race to race back in the '70s and you would likely find two M23s in the same team even that weren't identical, so I wouldn't waste too much time worrying about it as long as it looks believable and you don't invite a rivet counter around to your house to have a look at it, you should be fine!! 
I believe those aftermarket braided hoses that you've used are hollow and tubular aren't they? If so, it might be worth inserting some electrical cable (white would be best so it doesn't show through the braid easily) through it or you could use some heavy duty clear fishing line of the right diameter? You could even paint the cable or fishing line silver before inserting and then you would find it extremely hard to notice through the braid at all? Using the braid as a sleeve over the cable would stop the braid from flattening out or kinking at a bend and make it look more round in profile and therefore more realistic? Hope that helps?
Really looking forward to your next update Malc, it's a pleasure watching your F1 builds!!
Kev
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Stunning build Malc You've certainly put some effort into this one Steve
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Great work on show here, your attention to detail is superb..... Regards Alan
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I believe those aftermarket braided hoses that you've used are hollow and tubular aren't they? If so, it might be worth inserting some electrical cable (white would be best so it doesn't show through the braid easily) through it or you could use some heavy duty clear fishing line of the right diameter? You could even paint the cable or fishing line silver before inserting and then you would find it extremely hard to notice through the braid at all? Using the braid as a sleeve over the cable would stop the braid from flattening out or kinking at a bend and make it look more round in profile and therefore more realistic? Hope that helps? Hi Kev, Great idea, why didn't I think of that  The braiding is hollow and the thin fishing line idea or fine metal wire will support the tube and stop it kinking. Will give it a go.
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Can I ask where you got the scale braided hose from?
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Nemesis wrote:Can I ask where you got the scale braided hose from? Sorry to jump ahead of you Malc, but just wanted to say - Daran you can get the braided sleeving along with loads of other useful miniature parts from a UK company here:
http://prime-miniatures.co.uk/home
Hope that helps you Daran?
You can also find loads of other useful Motor Modelling websites (though some may be obsolete by now?) in the 'Cyber Garage' which I started about three years ago under my old username and which can still be found here:
http://forum.model-space...aspx?g=posts&t=3108
Hope that helps also?
Sorry to hijack your build thread Malc, if it isn't appropriate then just PM me and I'll remove it?
All the best,
Kev 
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RM1 wrote:Hi Kev,
Great idea, why didn't I think of that The braiding is hollow and the thin fishing line idea or fine metal wire will support the tube and stop it kinking. Will give it a go. Hello Malc,
Not sure if you misunderstood what I meant but you don't want the fishing line to be too thin or the wire to be too fine, whichever you use, the idea is not just to have an internal support for the braided sleeve, but more akin to the braiding being a kind of slightly loose fitting 'sock' over whatever internal material you use? It needs to be fairly close to the internal diameter of the braided sleeving though not a tight fit obviously and it also needs to be flexible enough to bend to any shape, obviously?
It helps if you can round the ends of the internal wire or fishing line so that you can thread it through and it doesn't catch on the inside of the braid? It also helps if you leave a little protruding at each end (2-3mm) so that you can then drill a similar diameter hole in the fittings or whatever you want to join the hoses to, and thus get a stronger joint between the two than if you just glued them together as a 'butting' joint - a bit like a locating pin and hole that you get in plastic kits when you join two halves together?
Thick soldering wire is another useful material for the task if you can find the bigger commercially used diameters, like the sort that plumbers use on the bigger jobs or just twist together several strands of a smaller diameter to fill the braided sleeve's diameter? Or you could even use string? There are loads of materials you could use as long as it gives a round profile to the hose and not flat or kinked?
Hope that helps?
Kev
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Wire for fishing traces has a clear plastic coating or the wire used to make jewelry with the black plastic coating ,bought on a spool so you cut off what you need is another source of this type of material Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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ModelMania wrote:RM1 wrote:Hi Kev,
Great idea, why didn't I think of that The braiding is hollow and the thin fishing line idea or fine metal wire will support the tube and stop it kinking. Will give it a go. Hello Malc,
Not sure if you misunderstood what I meant but you don't want the fishing line to be too thin or the wire to be too fine, whichever you use, the idea is not just to have an internal support for the braided sleeve, but more akin to the braiding being a kind of slightly loose fitting 'sock' over whatever internal material you use? It needs to be fairly close to the internal diameter of the braided sleeving though not a tight fit obviously and it also needs to be flexible enough to bend to any shape, obviously?
It helps if you can round the ends of the internal wire or fishing line so that you can thread it through and it doesn't catch on the inside of the braid? It also helps if you leave a little protruding at each end (2-3mm) so that you can then drill a similar diameter hole in the fittings or whatever you want to join the hoses to, and thus get a stronger joint between the two than if you just glued them together as a 'butting' joint - a bit like a locating pin and hole that you get in plastic kits when you join two halves together?
Thick soldering wire is another useful material for the task if you can find the bigger commercially used diameters, like the sort that plumbers use on the bigger jobs or just twist together several strands of a smaller diameter to fill the braided sleeve's diameter? Or you could even use string? There are loads of materials you could use as long as it gives a round profile to the hose and not flat or kinked?
Hope that helps?
Kev
Hi Kev,
Thanks for the extra advice. You're quite right that the inner wire support must be a neat fit in the braid.That way it will give a nice cylindrical form to the hose. The trick is to find that perfect size of wire or line.
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ModelMania wrote:Nemesis wrote:Can I ask where you got the scale braided hose from? Sorry to jump ahead of you Malc, but just wanted to say - Daran you can get the braided sleeving along with loads of other useful miniature parts from a UK company here:
http://prime-miniatures.co.uk/home
Hope that helps you Daran?
You can also find loads of other useful Motor Modelling websites (though some may be obsolete by now?) in the 'Cyber Garage' which I started about three years ago under my old username and which can still be found here:
http://forum.model-space...aspx?g=posts&t=3108
Hope that helps also?
Sorry to hijack your build thread Malc, if it isn't appropriate then just PM me and I'll remove it?
All the best,
Kev No problem Kev, Your information and knowledge is always welcome
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Nemesis wrote:Can I ask where you got the scale braided hose from?
Hi Nemesis, I see that Kev has given you a link to find the braided hose. I actually got a T2M product from "bestbalsa".
Cheers
Malc.
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RM1 wrote:Nemesis wrote:Can I ask where you got the scale braided hose from?
Hi Nemesis, I see that Kev has given you a link to find the braided hose. I actually got a T2M product from "bestbalsa".
Cheers
Malc. Hello Malc,
I've bought a couple of items from the guy who owns that 'bestbalsakits' site in Belgium, but his prices are a bit on the high side - usually 20-30% more expensive - compared to others? Might be worth you checking out the 'Prime-miniatures' UK based company in my link as I know they ship worldwide and I'm sure they are cheaper than 'bestbalsakits' even after you include post and packing?
Kev
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I must stop obsessing with the wiring and plumbing. Luckily it's just about how I want it RM1 attached the following image(s):
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