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1/48 scale U-Boat U230 [Part 1] Options
Sticky Wickett
#781 Posted : 08 June 2017 20:49:01

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#782 Posted : 08 June 2017 20:52:55

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I scratch built some parts for the torpedo compartment back in November 2015. One of the parts was the deck base that sits underneath the torpedo tubes.

I made it from 0.5mm plastic sheet. I took extra time to ensure it was a really accurate fit.

This photo shows the deck base prior to fitting.
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#783 Posted : 08 June 2017 20:57:16

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This photo shows the deck base being fitted.
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#784 Posted : 08 June 2017 20:58:25

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Deck base glued in place.
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#785 Posted : 08 June 2017 20:59:16

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Another view of the deck base.
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#786 Posted : 08 June 2017 21:03:41

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This photo shows a close up of the deck base and also a lower strip which acts as a supporting edge to fix the torpedo tube bulkhead too. There is also an upper supporting strip.
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#787 Posted : 08 June 2017 21:09:23

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Next job was to check the fit of the torpedo tubes into their respective holes. Houston we have a problem!Confused The tubes were also AMP's and of similar material to the bulkhead. Fairly solid in construction but completely out of round! I measured one of the tubes to gauge the oval off-set; the difference between the large and small diameters was 0.7mm on one particular tube!

The other was that they were significantly smaller than the cut-outs I had made.

The attached photo shows the oval shape of the torpedo tube.
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#788 Posted : 08 June 2017 21:16:18

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It was at this juncture that I seriously contemplated making all the tubes from scratch. Problem with that solution is the extra amount of time it would add to the build so I decided to add extra material to the original tubes and file to suit.

I started by gluing a 0.5mm strip around each end of the torpedo tubes. Although this didn't resolve the oval problem it did make the diameters large enough so that I could file and fit each tube to the bulkhead, albeit with a tiny gap each side where the narrow diameter is exposed.

The attached photo shows the strip fitted to the end of one of the tubes.
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#789 Posted : 08 June 2017 21:17:46

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First tube being checked for fit after filing the plastic strip.
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#790 Posted : 08 June 2017 21:23:26

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Glad to see you got round the tube problem. looking fantastic. IanCool BigGrin
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#791 Posted : 08 June 2017 21:31:40

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My intention is too fit the torpedo tubes later on the build, allowing me to add extra detail to them freely before refitting. The bulkhead as is offers little strength due to it's depth so I opted to fit a pin to each tube which fits into the vertical strips I mentioned earlier.

This photo shows the first pin locating hole drilled through the vertical strip.
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#792 Posted : 08 June 2017 21:35:12

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I could then refit the tube, making sure it sat square and drilled a marker using the vertical strip as a guide.

This photo shows the pin, which was cut from 1.5mm diameter brass tube, fitted to the end of the first tube.
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Tube located with brass pin in place.
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I was happy with this solution as it significantly added strength and provided a positive location for the tube.

This photo shows how effective the brass pin has on the fit. No glue at this stage.
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#795 Posted : 08 June 2017 21:45:07

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ian smith wrote:
Glad to see you got round the tube problem. looking fantastic. IanCool BigGrin


Thanks Ian for looking in! Writing it all down it seems so easy in comparison to resolving the oval issue for real. A fair bit of head scratching was involved.Blink Confused

Regards,
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Looking from the backing sheet side.
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#797 Posted : 08 June 2017 21:47:14

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Looking from the backing sheet side.
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Checking the tube is sitting square to the bulkhead.
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#799 Posted : 08 June 2017 21:55:35

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What with a reasonable intermittent fit of the oval shaped tubes and the brass pin, i wanted to increase the surface area further to ensure that when the tubes are glued they remain strong and robust.

I opted to fit three small pieces of square strip around the diameter of the tube base where it sits against the bulkhead. These small supports allow more glue to be applied and thus increase the stability of the torpedo tubes.

This photo shows the three supports fitted to the first tube.
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Tube test fitted with the supports in place.
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