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 Just to show the difference Personal I can understand people's thoughts on this but once the decals are applied I was gonna clear coat it anyway just to seal the decals on plus it will make it easier to clean. For those who haven't clear coated before it not hard you just need to take ur time. Sorry to get involved in this subject CURRENT BUILDS
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S2ksean wrote:Just to show the difference Personal I can understand people's thoughts on this but once the decals are applied I was gonna clear coat it anyway just to seal the decals on plus it will make it easier to clean. For those who haven't clear coated before it not hard you just need to take ur time. Sorry to get involved in this subject Thanks Sean, What did you use to clear coat yours? I was considering buying some of the mr hobby clear coat they have used in Japan. Was hoping Tomick or Admin could give me an answer as to whether we will have instructions for clear coating in the last magazine?
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There is a thread on this titled front wing test.sorry Don't no how to put up the link. I used tamiya clear coat the pictures don't really do it justice it looks better in the flesh so the speak lol CURRENT BUILDS
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Sorry to post this again but how can people be happy with spending hard earned money to fix a model that should have been correct in the first place. If this model would have cost £25 quid i could have understood it but in reality it cost a lot more. It was advertised as the championship winning car of 2008 and regardless of what other people think it was and still is mis-advertised. Either the colour or finish is wrong. really cant understand why people expect and allow partwork models will have problems, step up and say NO i will not accept this and get it right. Deag have obviously washed their hands of this and dont give a stuff about people who spend there money on there products. If that is there answer then give me a full refund cause this model is a sham even though its detailed and ace but this is a problem that you cannot excuse with a lame answer that they offered. I want a REFUND.
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I think we can all accept that this thread, and similar ones, are now dead as far as DeAg etc are concerned, and posting anything else is a waste of time as they probably won't even bother to read it.
As I said, I will sort the WRONG colour myself - and I have seen an F1 McLaren 'in the flesh', and NO it wasn't three different shades of red, part gloss, part satin. The finish on the car was as good as anything Rolls-Royce put out, if not better.
F1 cars these days are a showcase of automotive skills - not brush painted racers like they had in the 50's and 60's.
End of my interest in this thread now that DeAg have run away and dropped us.
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Not "run away and dropped" but have advised the following...
"We believe that upon completion of your build, you will be extremely happy with your model but if you continue to have any queries after this time, then we will be happy to answer them."
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Warthog wrote:Yay the suns out Not anymore
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Take a picture of it - so you can remember what it looks like.
Only hope it's a bit drier over Silverstone tomorrow...........
C'mon Jenson - show them how to drive in the wet!
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Senna94 wrote:Skiddy wrote:Senna94 wrote:Skiddy wrote:Silent_Running wrote:roymattblack wrote:Hate to say 'Told you so' BUT 'Told you so'........
NO fix.
Sort it yourself.
Roy. I'm sorry Roy but I'm afraid your wrong, my understanding from a credible source is that McLaren have approved this model at all stages of production right up to its current form. Are you going to tell McLaren they don't know the colour of their own car?
This issue has been subject to an exhaustive investigation, and the model has been examined and approved by McLaren.
I have already been in touch with Mclaren earlier today regarding same....awaiting a reply. Hi Mate, in contact with McLaren in what context? Can you elaborate please? With whom or how is not for open discussion...just that I have. That's not what I asked... Read it again, In what context, ie did you ask them If that is correct or what? READ IT AGAIN....NOT OPEN FOR DISCUSSION
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Skiddy wrote:Senna94 wrote:Skiddy wrote:Senna94 wrote:Skiddy wrote:Silent_Running wrote:roymattblack wrote:Hate to say 'Told you so' BUT 'Told you so'........
NO fix.
Sort it yourself.
Roy. I'm sorry Roy but I'm afraid your wrong, my understanding from a credible source is that McLaren have approved this model at all stages of production right up to its current form. Are you going to tell McLaren they don't know the colour of their own car?
This issue has been subject to an exhaustive investigation, and the model has been examined and approved by McLaren.
I have already been in touch with Mclaren earlier today regarding same....awaiting a reply. Hi Mate, in contact with McLaren in what context? Can you elaborate please? With whom or how is not for open discussion...just that I have. That's not what I asked... Read it again, In what context, ie did you ask them If that is correct or what? READ IT AGAIN....NOT OPEN FOR DISCUSSION Well the why post it on a DISCUSSION board if your not prepared to DISCUSS it? Building the McLaren MP4-23
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I think its the right time to point out that the answer has been given and as some of you have already said this thread is not adding any value to the forum. Let me explain something - When we signed up for this model we knew how much it would cost, we knew what we were getting but aswell as the model we get a magazine every issue. The magazine is pretty decent in the fact it is packed with features and being a avid formula 1 fan I love reading anything about the sport. But that also means that we are paying for two things, the model and the magazine. So call it £700 for the full sub, lets say £500 for the model £200 for the magazine which I think is more than reasonable break down of the cost. So £500 for a model does sound expensive but 1. Its pre-painted whether you like it or not, 2. its semi-exclusive eg you can only get it here or at Amalgam. So when taking them into consideration the price isn't actually too bad which ever way you look at it. If you take a look at some of the completed Japanese models they look brilliant, and I'm talking about the standard ones. I've also gained information that the colour issue was seen in Japan, my contact doesn't know what exactly what was done about it, but we both thought that the clearcoating at the end was a possible fix. So you are not alone. Besides, when building a model from scratch, almost all modellers will clearcoat and polish to finish. Let me also inform you that if you are not happy, please feel free to go to Amalgam and pay £3500 for a MP4-23 model, albeit not the Silverstone spec. Or if your feeling £3500 is too much, then pay the 75% full value price for a kit, I mean at a mere £2900 approx depending on which model, which I suppose is not bad, or is it? Many of you will know I'm stripping mine down and repainting, but even if I was to stock build this, I would be happy to display it, proudly, knowing I have built it. The forum is turning sour because of this, and a forum should not be like this. I propose Admin/Tomick we close the thread and concentrate on matters which can be discussed peacefully, after all this is not up for discussion no more as DeAgo and Kyosho have answered the quesitons. If I offend anyone its not meant to, I just want to come on the forum and see something positive and all I've done in the past week is read this thread. Building the McLaren MP4-23
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Senna94 wrote:I think its the right time to point out that the answer has been given and as some of you have already said this thread is not adding any value to the forum.
Let me explain something -
When we signed up for this model we knew how much it would cost, we knew what we were getting but aswell as the model we get a magazine every issue. The magazine is pretty decent in the fact it is packed with features and being a avid formula 1 fan I love reading anything about the sport. But that also means that we are paying for two things, the model and the magazine. So call it £700 for the full sub, lets say £500 for the model £200 for the magazine which I think is more than reasonable break down of the cost. So £500 for a model does sound expensive but 1. Its pre-painted whether you like it or not, 2. its semi-exclusive eg you can only get it here or at Amalgam. So when taking them into consideration the price isn't actually too bad which ever way you look at it.
If you take a look at some of the completed Japanese models they look brilliant, and I'm talking about the standard ones. I've also gained information that the colour issue was seen in Japan, my contact doesn't know what exactly what was done about it, but we both thought that the clearcoating at the end was a possible fix. So you are not alone. Besides, when building a model from scratch, almost all modellers will clearcoat and polish to finish.
Let me also inform you that if you are not happy, please feel free to go to Amalgam and pay £3500 for a MP4-23 model, albeit not the Silverstone spec. Or if your feeling £3500 is too much, then pay the 75% full value price for a kit, I mean at a mere £2900 approx depending on which model, which I suppose is not bad, or is it?
Many of you will know I'm stripping mine down and repainting, but even if I was to stock build this, I would be happy to display it, proudly, knowing I have built it.
The forum is turning sour because of this, and a forum should not be like this.
I propose Admin/Tomick we close the thread and concentrate on matters which can be discussed peacefully, after all this is not up for discussion no more as DeAgo and Kyosho have answered the quesitons.
If I offend anyone its not meant to, I just want to come on the forum and see something positive and all I've done in the past week is read this thread.
Hi, Could you post some links to the finished japanese ones as i wanted to see what affect the clear coat has. I was planning on getting my hands on some of it from Japan if its any good! Not too sure about using the Tamiya one as i read somewhere its best to only use aqueous and not the acrylic clear coat. Ta Ian
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Senna94 wrote:I think its the right time to point out that the answer has been given and as some of you have already said this thread is not adding any value to the forum.
Let me explain something -
When we signed up for this model we knew how much it would cost, we knew what we were getting but aswell as the model we get a magazine every issue. The magazine is pretty decent in the fact it is packed with features and being a avid formula 1 fan I love reading anything about the sport. But that also means that we are paying for two things, the model and the magazine. So call it £700 for the full sub, lets say £500 for the model £200 for the magazine which I think is more than reasonable break down of the cost. So £500 for a model does sound expensive but 1. Its pre-painted whether you like it or not, 2. its semi-exclusive eg you can only get it here or at Amalgam. So when taking them into consideration the price isn't actually too bad which ever way you look at it.
If you take a look at some of the completed Japanese models they look brilliant, and I'm talking about the standard ones. I've also gained information that the colour issue was seen in Japan, my contact doesn't know what exactly what was done about it, but we both thought that the clearcoating at the end was a possible fix. So you are not alone. Besides, when building a model from scratch, almost all modellers will clearcoat and polish to finish.
Let me also inform you that if you are not happy, please feel free to go to Amalgam and pay £3500 for a MP4-23 model, albeit not the Silverstone spec. Or if your feeling £3500 is too much, then pay the 75% full value price for a kit, I mean at a mere £2900 approx depending on which model, which I suppose is not bad, or is it?
Many of you will know I'm stripping mine down and repainting, but even if I was to stock build this, I would be happy to display it, proudly, knowing I have built it.
The forum is turning sour because of this, and a forum should not be like this.
I propose Admin/Tomick we close the thread and concentrate on matters which can be discussed peacefully, after all this is not up for discussion no more as DeAgo and Kyosho have answered the quesitons.
If I offend anyone its not meant to, I just want to come on the forum and see something positive and all I've done in the past week is read this thread.
You really are wind and....you know the rest If you don't like what you read then go read something else. This is being DISCUSSED on a DISCUSSION BOARD persay.....yes ? If you want to value the model and magazine seperatly it is of no interest here.....just the amount we are paying COMPLETE is what matters.
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only1ianuk wrote:Senna94 wrote:I think its the right time to point out that the answer has been given and as some of you have already said this thread is not adding any value to the forum.
Let me explain something -
When we signed up for this model we knew how much it would cost, we knew what we were getting but aswell as the model we get a magazine every issue. The magazine is pretty decent in the fact it is packed with features and being a avid formula 1 fan I love reading anything about the sport. But that also means that we are paying for two things, the model and the magazine. So call it £700 for the full sub, lets say £500 for the model £200 for the magazine which I think is more than reasonable break down of the cost. So £500 for a model does sound expensive but 1. Its pre-painted whether you like it or not, 2. its semi-exclusive eg you can only get it here or at Amalgam. So when taking them into consideration the price isn't actually too bad which ever way you look at it.
If you take a look at some of the completed Japanese models they look brilliant, and I'm talking about the standard ones. I've also gained information that the colour issue was seen in Japan, my contact doesn't know what exactly what was done about it, but we both thought that the clearcoating at the end was a possible fix. So you are not alone. Besides, when building a model from scratch, almost all modellers will clearcoat and polish to finish.
Let me also inform you that if you are not happy, please feel free to go to Amalgam and pay £3500 for a MP4-23 model, albeit not the Silverstone spec. Or if your feeling £3500 is too much, then pay the 75% full value price for a kit, I mean at a mere £2900 approx depending on which model, which I suppose is not bad, or is it?
Many of you will know I'm stripping mine down and repainting, but even if I was to stock build this, I would be happy to display it, proudly, knowing I have built it.
The forum is turning sour because of this, and a forum should not be like this.
I propose Admin/Tomick we close the thread and concentrate on matters which can be discussed peacefully, after all this is not up for discussion no more as DeAgo and Kyosho have answered the quesitons.
If I offend anyone its not meant to, I just want to come on the forum and see something positive and all I've done in the past week is read this thread.
Hi, Could you post some links to the finished japanese ones as i wanted to see what affect the clear coat has. I was planning on getting my hands on some of it from Japan if its any good! Not too sure about using the Tamiya one as i read somewhere its best to only use aqueous and not the acrylic clear coat. Ta Ian Hi Ian, Pictures pulled from the Japanese forum - http://deagostini.jp/ima...2012043021504824037.jpg
http://deagostini.jp/ima...2012040320395797bed.jpg
They are the only ones I can find... I have seen more but didnt save the links. Hope this helps. Danny Building the McLaren MP4-23
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Skiddy wrote:Senna94 wrote:I think its the right time to point out that the answer has been given and as some of you have already said this thread is not adding any value to the forum.
Let me explain something -
When we signed up for this model we knew how much it would cost, we knew what we were getting but aswell as the model we get a magazine every issue. The magazine is pretty decent in the fact it is packed with features and being a avid formula 1 fan I love reading anything about the sport. But that also means that we are paying for two things, the model and the magazine. So call it £700 for the full sub, lets say £500 for the model £200 for the magazine which I think is more than reasonable break down of the cost. So £500 for a model does sound expensive but 1. Its pre-painted whether you like it or not, 2. its semi-exclusive eg you can only get it here or at Amalgam. So when taking them into consideration the price isn't actually too bad which ever way you look at it.
If you take a look at some of the completed Japanese models they look brilliant, and I'm talking about the standard ones. I've also gained information that the colour issue was seen in Japan, my contact doesn't know what exactly what was done about it, but we both thought that the clearcoating at the end was a possible fix. So you are not alone. Besides, when building a model from scratch, almost all modellers will clearcoat and polish to finish.
Let me also inform you that if you are not happy, please feel free to go to Amalgam and pay £3500 for a MP4-23 model, albeit not the Silverstone spec. Or if your feeling £3500 is too much, then pay the 75% full value price for a kit, I mean at a mere £2900 approx depending on which model, which I suppose is not bad, or is it?
Many of you will know I'm stripping mine down and repainting, but even if I was to stock build this, I would be happy to display it, proudly, knowing I have built it.
The forum is turning sour because of this, and a forum should not be like this.
I propose Admin/Tomick we close the thread and concentrate on matters which can be discussed peacefully, after all this is not up for discussion no more as DeAgo and Kyosho have answered the quesitons.
If I offend anyone its not meant to, I just want to come on the forum and see something positive and all I've done in the past week is read this thread.
You really are wind and....you know the rest If you don't like what you read then go read something else. This is being DISCUSSED on a DISCUSSION BOARD persay.....yes ? If you want to value the model and magazine seperatly it is of no interest here.....just the amount we are paying COMPLETE is what matters. Rich coming from you pal, being discussed? You won't discuss your 'McLaren Contact'. Building the McLaren MP4-23
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People are getting annoyed at each othere here, when the prob is DeAg.
Why not just call it quits?
'Each to their own' as they say.
We're all just modellers here.
One of my messages caused an uproar a few weeks ago and it wasn't what I intended.
Lets just be pals and enjoy the kit.
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roymattblack wrote:People are getting annoyed at each othere here, when the prob is DeAg.
Why not just call it quits?
'Each to their own' as they say.
We're all just modellers here.
One of my messages caused an uproar a few weeks ago and it wasn't what I intended.
Lets just be pals and enjoy the kit.
Roy. Well thats the problem, people can't enjoy the kit!! The faster this thread is closed the better... we have an answer. The more it rumbles on the less chance we will have at other kits coming our way. And you make a fair comment.... I agree Building the McLaren MP4-23
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Senna94 wrote:Skiddy wrote:Senna94 wrote:I think its the right time to point out that the answer has been given and as some of you have already said this thread is not adding any value to the forum.
Let me explain something -
When we signed up for this model we knew how much it would cost, we knew what we were getting but aswell as the model we get a magazine every issue. The magazine is pretty decent in the fact it is packed with features and being a avid formula 1 fan I love reading anything about the sport. But that also means that we are paying for two things, the model and the magazine. So call it £700 for the full sub, lets say £500 for the model £200 for the magazine which I think is more than reasonable break down of the cost. So £500 for a model does sound expensive but 1. Its pre-painted whether you like it or not, 2. its semi-exclusive eg you can only get it here or at Amalgam. So when taking them into consideration the price isn't actually too bad which ever way you look at it.
If you take a look at some of the completed Japanese models they look brilliant, and I'm talking about the standard ones. I've also gained information that the colour issue was seen in Japan, my contact doesn't know what exactly what was done about it, but we both thought that the clearcoating at the end was a possible fix. So you are not alone. Besides, when building a model from scratch, almost all modellers will clearcoat and polish to finish.
Let me also inform you that if you are not happy, please feel free to go to Amalgam and pay £3500 for a MP4-23 model, albeit not the Silverstone spec. Or if your feeling £3500 is too much, then pay the 75% full value price for a kit, I mean at a mere £2900 approx depending on which model, which I suppose is not bad, or is it?
Many of you will know I'm stripping mine down and repainting, but even if I was to stock build this, I would be happy to display it, proudly, knowing I have built it.
The forum is turning sour because of this, and a forum should not be like this.
I propose Admin/Tomick we close the thread and concentrate on matters which can be discussed peacefully, after all this is not up for discussion no more as DeAgo and Kyosho have answered the quesitons.
If I offend anyone its not meant to, I just want to come on the forum and see something positive and all I've done in the past week is read this thread.
You really are wind and....you know the rest If you don't like what you read then go read something else. This is being DISCUSSED on a DISCUSSION BOARD persay.....yes ? If you want to value the model and magazine seperatly it is of no interest here.....just the amount we are paying COMPLETE is what matters. Rich coming from you pal, being discussed? You won't discuss your 'McLaren Contact'. Pratt
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Skiddy wrote:Senna94 wrote:Skiddy wrote:Senna94 wrote:I think its the right time to point out that the answer has been given and as some of you have already said this thread is not adding any value to the forum.
Let me explain something -
When we signed up for this model we knew how much it would cost, we knew what we were getting but aswell as the model we get a magazine every issue. The magazine is pretty decent in the fact it is packed with features and being a avid formula 1 fan I love reading anything about the sport. But that also means that we are paying for two things, the model and the magazine. So call it £700 for the full sub, lets say £500 for the model £200 for the magazine which I think is more than reasonable break down of the cost. So £500 for a model does sound expensive but 1. Its pre-painted whether you like it or not, 2. its semi-exclusive eg you can only get it here or at Amalgam. So when taking them into consideration the price isn't actually too bad which ever way you look at it.
If you take a look at some of the completed Japanese models they look brilliant, and I'm talking about the standard ones. I've also gained information that the colour issue was seen in Japan, my contact doesn't know what exactly what was done about it, but we both thought that the clearcoating at the end was a possible fix. So you are not alone. Besides, when building a model from scratch, almost all modellers will clearcoat and polish to finish.
Let me also inform you that if you are not happy, please feel free to go to Amalgam and pay £3500 for a MP4-23 model, albeit not the Silverstone spec. Or if your feeling £3500 is too much, then pay the 75% full value price for a kit, I mean at a mere £2900 approx depending on which model, which I suppose is not bad, or is it?
Many of you will know I'm stripping mine down and repainting, but even if I was to stock build this, I would be happy to display it, proudly, knowing I have built it.
The forum is turning sour because of this, and a forum should not be like this.
I propose Admin/Tomick we close the thread and concentrate on matters which can be discussed peacefully, after all this is not up for discussion no more as DeAgo and Kyosho have answered the quesitons.
If I offend anyone its not meant to, I just want to come on the forum and see something positive and all I've done in the past week is read this thread.
You really are wind and....you know the rest If you don't like what you read then go read something else. This is being DISCUSSED on a DISCUSSION BOARD persay.....yes ? If you want to value the model and magazine seperatly it is of no interest here.....just the amount we are paying COMPLETE is what matters. Rich coming from you pal, being discussed? You won't discuss your 'McLaren Contact'. Pratt Cheers! But I have a point... Look I have my opinions, you have yours, I stated facts in my post.. Not all facts, but facts. Building the McLaren MP4-23
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