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#81 Posted : 05 May 2014 22:23:11

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Love it more and more as you progress through this fabulous build..... Stunning work..... Love Love Drool Drool Love Love

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#82 Posted : 06 May 2014 08:38:46

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Hi Robin,
Great stuff watching all the time, this is my type of modelling.
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Hi Robin, saw your post last night but realising id need 15 mins to read it properly I saved it for the morningBigGrin
Love the MKIV detailing, I did think about the guns not tapering also but like you I have also seen them straight barrelled so went with it. Seeing as yours were near prefect then no point in messing with them, mine were 1mm difference around the diameter!
Really like the Lewis guns, very nice job, and also like the extra armour on yours, something else I was going to do on mine.
Still got to make a mould for my spuds yet so will be watching yours with interestLaugh
Steve
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#84 Posted : 08 May 2014 18:28:14

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Thanks again to Jase, Adrie, Alan, Trev and Stevie! This part of the build is really taking me back to what was once my kind of modelling too!
I'm happy to say the entire first MkIV is completed now, (except for the painting and the track additions, the spuds which I can't put off any longer!)Blink Overall she's looking not bad at all and I must say I'm very impressed with the way the Emhar 'rubber' tracks glue down, much easier than the old Airfix ones!BigGrin

Ok, on with Part 1b.

Part Twenty One:

Continuing the MkIV: Part One (b)

Having already made up the new Lewis gun along with the other two for the sponsons, the first task was to drill out the forward MG position on the front of the hull as shown in Photo 16. At this point, the driver’s cabin section is still not glued onto the main hull as I would need to access the underside to countersink the ball mount hole. Also visible here are two little ‘ears’ sticking up on each side of the cabin roof. This was another improvement to the MkI due to ‘feedback’ from the tank crews on the battlefield. Directly behind these ears are two of the many ‘protected loopholes’ all around the hull. These are basically circular holes in the steel plate about the size of a coke tin base with a rotating teardrop shaped steel cover which will open or close the loophole. These loopholes can be used for a variety of things from admitting fresh air if you can’t hear bullets bouncing off the hull to sticking the barrel of your Webley revolver out to dissuade enemy infantry from trespassing on the roof! These two on top of the cabin were used mainly to poke a small periscope up through to see where you were going. It was found that snipers and MGs could destroy the periscopes with either accurate or just large volumes of fire and so the little shields were added so that only the very top of the periscope could be shot at. These two are simply two tiny pieces of thin plasticard glued in place as a piece of ‘L’ angle iron. Incidentally, (History Lesson!) the vision slits all around the tank were not simple slots in the hull either, (see the two below the ‘ears’ above the driver’s position) they were in fact periscopes too with a pair of oblong mirrors set into the armoured vision box. A lucky shot through the outer slit would smash the lower mirror and rend the vision slit useless, hence the need to stick a hand held periscope out the roof!
Photo 17 shows the cabin removed to drill out the solid hull beneath. When I make the two cutaway halves of Iron Rations and Revenge, this L shaped area will have to be cut out leaving the (then) hollow cabin roof. Photo 18 shows the front Lewis gun in position but not quite! The mounting hole was still not quite big enough and the ball mount protrudes out too far. So I did a Stevie! I drilled it slightly bigger and then found it was too flaming big and the glass bead just fell through the hole! Unfortunately I couldn’t use Stevie’s remedy (use a glass bead!) as I seemed to be already using them! The hole was only just too large though and so in the end I simply used superglue gel instead of the runny version and (eventually) after much cursing and watching the gun barrel repeatedly droop down in slow motion, the gel took hold and I was able to set the barrel just where I needed it to point! (see Photo 21)
With the forward Lewis gun completed, it was time to turn to the front towing hitch. Just like the 1/35 version, Emhar only moulds the bottom half of this hitch plate on the model. Out came the plasticard again and a tiny little top plate was roughly cut to shape ready to glue to the upper hull glacis plate (slopey bit at the front!). Unlike Stevie’s metal version, this one had to be made in two parts with the bolted section added on once the plate part was finished. In Photo 19 you can see the rough plate in position with a chamfered back edge to match the hull and a pre-drilled hole to take a small brass nail down through both it and the kit bottom section. The big white thing sticking out the front is a scrap of the same plasticard being used to keep the gap between the two plates as the glue dried. (And I damn near glued that in there too!)Blushing Once completely dry, ie overnight, the top plate was filed down to match the bottom one and then on to the shackle. For the front shackle I used brass and solder. The brass nail mentioned earlier was cut down in length and a second nail had its head ground down with the diamond dust wheel on the rotary tool into a pseudo nut or bolt head before a curved piece of 0.5mm brass wire was cut and soldered to it to form the ‘U’ shackle. Once soldered, the excess nail length was ground away to leave the finished item as in Photo 20. Finally, back to Photo 21 where the shackle is simply held in place by the brass pin.
And now for the interesting bit! Imagine you’re one of Stevie’s Grandad’s mates, a gunner in a MkIV (or MkV) you are already sweating like a pig from the excessive heat of the Daimler engine, you are nauseous from the petrol and exhaust fumes and now you’re in the thick of the action too! You pick a target for the 6pdr gun, your loader slams a shell into the breech and you squint down the telescope gun sight before pulling the trigger. The entire tank jolts as the shell is blasted away and then what happens? The shell case is ejected, adding even more heat to the hull interior and spewing out choking cordite fumes! Well that’s what it was like for the MkI crews but now, thankfully, someone’s come up with a great idea! From the MkIV’s onwards the sponson doors now feature an addition as shown in Fig 1. The bottom panel of the steel doors now have an armoured box which juts out from the main door. This forms a rectangular chute with a ‘postbox’ hole on the inside. When the 6pdr is fired, the smoking brass case is now chucked into the slot and falls out the chute onto the ground outside – simple but very effective.
The armoured chute was formed from two pieces of thicker plasticard, cut and shaped to follow the contours of the moulded in door. The bottom edge of the piece was then carefully filed down to create the illusion of the hollow chute inside as can be seen in Photos 22 and 23. Once they looked right, the two blocks of plastic were glued to the bottom of the doors and finished off with self adhesive copper tape (anti-slug variety!) left over from coppering Victory’s hull bottom. The rivets were added with the darning needle before carefully sticking them in place. Note: the little single piece isn’t stuck on cock-eyed, it follows the slant of the door side! I don’t trust the tape’s own glue with small bits like this, so once in place a dribble of superglue was applied to the tape edge to seal it down for good.
Photos 25 to 29 illustrate the construction of the two duo level brackets as fitted to the inside of the rear horns. These were put there to fit an extra strut on to the unditching rails although the photo evidence points to not every tank having the struts fitted afterwards. I tried to make these from brass strip but, try as I might, I just couldn’t get them to go small enough even with my smallest long nosed pliers again! In the end I settled for making them out of plasticard (and this outcome will crop up again in Part two next week!) First of all I filed down a shallow groove into the edge of the plastic and then sliced off the strip just below that groove as in the right hand piece in Photo 25. When that was completed, I used the safety razor blade (in it’s purpose built retractable handle) to ‘nip’ out the two steps on the shoulder to leave the piece on the left in the same photo. With a little trimming here and there I was left with the ‘door handles’ seen resting on the hull roof in Photo 26. These were the bottom parts of the brackets. The top part was simply a smaller piece of plasticard with an even smaller filed down groove and then also sliced off the strip as in Photo 28. The completed brackets can be seen glued in place in Photo 29. Also shown here is the kit part for the spud box. In my scale this is a simple four sided box with no surface detail. I checked on Stevie’s diary and his 1/35 version is much better! It has the brackets moulded on and is also much closer to scale. It should be half inch steel plate, mine appears to be six inch battleship armour! So, as Photo 30 indicates, that’s the next part to begin the following week’s concluding instalment!

See you all soon and Happy Plasticarding to All!BigGrin


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First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale
Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault
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Is there anything that you do the easy way, Robin? Blink Blink

ABSOLUTELY amazing!!!!ThumpUpThumpUpThumpUp

PLEASE keep going! Love Love Love

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Modifications look superb Robin and your build descriptions are still top notch..... Very well done....Drool Drool Love Drool Drool

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Many thanks to Adrie and Alan! Greatly appreciated! Blushing Easy way? what's one of them? BigGrin Anyway, YOU'RE the one building a blooming great battleship out of paper and card!Cool
And Alan, that WW1 book I mentioned which had the unfortunate encounter with a cup of tea, the Works finally got it back in stock, AND its a Centenary Edition too!BigGrin

Ok, on with the spud box!

Part Twenty Two:

The Spud box was constructed from a sheet of 0.5mm plasticard, the main components of which were shown in the final photo of last week’s post. In Photo 31, you can see what became of those bits! The basic rectangle has been glued together and I’ve begun to apply the ‘U’ brackets to the front and back sides. These were also cut from the same plasticard sheet. On the real tank, these are simple U shaped brackets, bolted to the roof of the tank and then the steel spud box is lowered into them and bolted in place, there are no brackets on the side walls. Also visible is the cut-out fore and aft for the exhaust system to pass through. It would probably have been easier to cut this out before gluing the sides together! I’ll have to remember that on Number 2! When I took this photo I had a sudden urge to get a 1/72 scale model child to have playing with his own 1/72 scale model fort! Funny how those super glue fumes work!
On to Photo 32 and the exhaust itself. The top of this photo shows the kit exhaust system whilst the bottom shows the same part with the tube replaced with an aluminium tube upgrade. You might notice some white areas on the kit part, this is due to bending the plastic in to shape. Although the kit part is moulded straight, the instructions tell you to bend the tubing to give a 6mm ‘kink’. This has also been added to the metal tube version although you can’t see it at that angle in the photo. The only thing that I couldn’t replicate was the tiny little kink in the tube right at the exhaust end. Even my set of miniature spring pipe benders weren’t that small! It doesn’t really matter too much though, by this time, the exhaust pipe was becoming even shorter, eventually ending up just a little longer than the rear end of the spud box itself.
We now come to what must have been the most infuriatingly fiddly upgrade of the lot, even more so as I could probably have got away with ignoring it altogether! Those thrice damned Unditching Rails!! If you have read Stevies excellent diary on his 1/35 scale bigger brother you might remember he mentioned that in his kit the rails were moulded inside out with the flat side pointing outwards instead of the horizontal top edge. Well that’s what I thought too! But when I came to look at my kit parts, lo and behold, they were moulded the correct way around! The only problem with my rail was that I didn’t think it was anywhere near thick enough for what it was designed to do. Checking through all my pictorial reference I came to the conclusion that these things must be at least 4” square angle, if not 6”. The Emhar kit rails look to be about 2” angle iron. Now the “Unditching Rails” as the name suggests are to enable the tank to ‘unditch’ ie, drag itself free from an enemy trench into which it has fallen head first. To do this, the unditching beam, a baulk of wood almost the size of a railway sleeper which is chained to the rails on the roof of the tank is chained instead to an adjacent track link on each side. Once attached, the tank is put into forward gear and the beam of wood slides along the rails, over the front of the tank and buries itself into the top of the trench where, hopefully, it gives enough purchase to the tracks to allow the tank to heave itself up and over the far edge of the trench. Somehow, I don’t think a length of 2” angle is going to be strong enough to support a railway sleeper! I needed a thicker piece of angle therefore, so off to town I went.
Unfortunately, that particular trip ended in disappointment. What I really wanted was a couple of lengths of 1.5mm brass angle but there was nothing suitable anywhere. My second option was to get a pack of the plastruct styrene moulded angle but of the two closest packs I could find, one was virtually the same size as the kit rails and the other was 2.0mm angle and even in the packet, looked far too big. So the next problem was, how do I make my own 1.5mm angle? As it happened, it proved to be easier than I’d thought! Those of you who have followed my DelPrado Victory diary may remember my solution to a) the curved head timbers at the bow and b) the hull side steps. For those who didn’t, the curved timbers were formed from a length of very thin brass ‘U’ profile which I filled with molten solder and the steps were formed from plasticard flat and quadrant profiles. Well I still had a 5” length of the brass channel and when I bought the flat strip plasticard I wasn’t quite sure what the width was so I got both 1.5mm x .5mm and 2.5mm x .5mm packs. As it turned out it needed 2.5mm so the 1.5 didn’t get used, until now that is! By a lucky accident I discovered that placing a length of the 1.5mm in the ‘trough’ of the brass channel as in the diagram, left exactly 0.5mm sticking up out the top. By carefully applying glue along the side of another length of plastic strip I could offer the two pieces up together and create an angle of 1.5 x 2mm, just what I required give or take a fraction of a millimetre. The brass channel was only half the length of the strip so it took two sessions with drying time in between but it worked! The result can be seen in Photo 33 with the completed left hand rail at the bottom, the component parts for the right hand one above and the kit original at the top. (Why Emhar couldn’t mould the whole rail in one piece I don’t know, it would have been much easier!) I decided the easiest way to form the wedge shaped ends which were welded on to the hull plates was simply to cut them off the kit parts. I also added tiny triangles of plasticard to the edge as you can see in Photo 35 (I’ve missed out 34 somehow!) as the Haynes Manual drawing seemed to show the angle iron effect continued down the wedges. The central support strut was scratch built from first one short length of the 1.5mm strip, and then two pieces glued together, both to strengthen the joint and also to allow a 0.5mm brass rod to be drilled and glued to fix it in place on the hull roof. It should be noted that I did eventually razor blade slices off those wedges until they actually fitted the hull without ‘bowing’ the rails out of line. The hull roof was drilled out with a .5mm bit to match the positions of the centre struts and the protruding brass rod was stuck down through before first gluing the front wedge support in place followed by the rear one. It sounds very simple but believe me there was a great deal of non-repeatable language during that process! First it wouldn’t stick, then when it did it was found to have slipped out of alignment and had to be ‘popped’ off and re-done etc etc! As far as the MkIV tank goes, the un-ditching rails are definitely my nemesis! (“We hates them we does!”).
Once the ruddy things were in place, I turned again to the Haynes Manual for the extra welded supports shown in the main drawing of the MkIV. In Photo 36, you can see the component parts for the Mid-Rear supports. These are found right beside the front of the spud box and were made from two pieces of plasticard topped off with a tiny section of the spare angle from the rails. The glued supports are shown in Photo 37 and fixed in position on the hull roof in Photo 38. Note also the little exhaust pipe support on the right. Goodness knows how many times I looked at the drawings before I actually noticed that one!
Finally for this instalment, we come to the rear towing hitches. Initially, I had tried to construct these from the same brass components as I used for the front hitch as in Photo 39 but I just couldn’t get them quite small enough to look right. The white cylinder beside the ‘U’ piece is a slice of the insulation from the barbed wire, this was carefully slit down the side to allow it to fit over the centre part of the ‘U’. In the end I settled for making them completely out of plastic as you can see in Photo 40 (held in the spring tweezers jaws). The round white centre was sliced from Plastruct 1.1mm styrene rod as was the tiny top piece. The grey ‘U’ piece came from part of the Emhar kit itself but I won’t describe exactly how it was made here as the process is already earmarked for another section of the diorama with its own ‘How to’ description to come in a week or two. Suffice it to say it worked quite well and in the final Photo 41, you can see the set of four rear tow hitches together with the brass version which illustrates how that one was just a little too oversized to get away with!
In the final section of the MkIV (apart from the track up-grade) we’ll see how all these individual parts finally fitted on to the kit and how the basic kit tracks went on (surprisingly well too!)
So, until next Thursday, Happy building to All!


Robin
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First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale
Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault
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DEFINITELY worth the yellow medal, I would say!! With additional clasp, for good measure!!

Oh, and Robin, I'm sorry, but I'm not building a blooming big battleship, Budgie is. Wink

I'm building a blooming light cruiser!

Mind you, strictly speaking Budgie isn't building a blooming big battleship either but a blooming big battlecruiser.

But it IS big! And made from card!

So you were almost there. Flapper Flapper Flapper Flapper

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

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Many thanks to Adrie and Stevie! And sorry about the blooming battleship moment! I don't know how national navies classify their warships but I built the Matchbox 1/700 HMS Exeter years ago and she doesn't have anywhere near as much superstructure as that Duchie and she's a Heavy Cruiser!BigGrin Blink Blushing

Anyway! Bloopers apart, here's the final main part of the first MkIV (just the spuds to come later!)Glare

Part Twenty Three:

So here’s how it all goes together! In Photo 42 you can see the rear section of the replaced Unditching rail as it bends down from the roof of the hull to the inside of the rear horns. This is where the extra strut runs down to those duo-level brackets constructed earlier. A simple short length of the plastruct styrene strip from which the rails were made was cut to shape with a slanted top edge to follow the angle of the rail. This was glued to the outer edge of the rail and just passes down through the bracket and is cut off level with its bottom edge. Also visible is the new aluminium exhaust pipe ‘kinked’ downwards as it exits the spud box. The end of the rail is fitted with cut down kit parts as described earlier.
Photo 43 illustrates the other end with the new rails slanting down either side of the driver’s cabin, again with the Emhar rail ends glued in. You can also see the Periscope guards, the new Lewis Gun barrel and the front tow hitch assembly (oh, and the tracks in place too!).
The straight on shot in Photo 44 also shows the rear rails again together with the rear armour additions and also the inner towing hitch shackles on the horns. A closer view of these is given in Photo 45 as well.
A MkIV in the hand is worth two in the ‘er, ditch! The whole thing can be seen in its full size here (or lack of it!) in Photo 46. Also shown on the right hand track are the first three of the grousers or ‘spuds’. These are the scratch built plasticard originals and are not glued down here. Together with another two, these will become the basis for a white metal casting mould, which, I hope, will allow me to cast the full set of spuds for all three of the tanks in the diorama (as well as an extra thingy to be seen later). Their construction will be the topic for a future instalment not too far down the line but I have to say, actually making the plastic originals was not as difficult as I had anticipated. It needs a little skill and a steady hand with a rotary tool it’s true, but should be within most modellers capabilities.
Before the final ‘big shots’ in Photos 47 and 48 which just give a bigger overall view of the finished but unpainted model, a quick word regarding the kit tracks. These, according to the instructions can be glued with ordinary plastic cement. I chose to use a super glue gel however, just to be certain they stayed put and also because it was far quicker. These tracks are excellent! Although not as flexible as the old Airfix type polythene tracks I remember from my youth, with the super glue gel, fixing them on was very easy, simply by running a thin bead along the inside edge of the track OR the rim of the hull. I did almost make a cock up on the second track by gluing the long section too far forward on the top of the hull which resulted in the joint ending up right at the rear horn just below the rearmost part. However the gel stuck everything down perfectly with no ‘lift up’ of the ends at all. The fit was so good that if anyone out there goes on to make their own little Emhar MkIV, I would recommend sticking the small section of track right in the middle of the bottom run of the hull and then join the long section at the front end of the glued piece and run it up and around to the bottom rear. The two links should be perfectly fitted together with no gaps at all.Cool
So that’s the first of the MkIVs! The other two will follow the same basic routine but with a lot more cutting involved than this one. And one final word about those ruddy rails – after all the extra work involved, and examining all the photos in the Haynes Manual one very exasperating fact came to light – there IS no right way around for them! Checking the photos revealed an almost 50/50 split between those with the flat part of the angle facing out and those with the flat facing in! Also, the actual shape of the rail varies considerably as well. In the case of the Emhars, the top rail kinks from the front of the spud box back to the rear hull and then down again. Many of the photos show this but even more have the kink right at the centre support strut and then back to the rear hull. Still others carry on further back to just above the inner horn tow hitch and then kink outwards to the horns! It would appear that the factories producing these tanks were pretty much left to their own devices as far as the rails were concerned. As long as it did its job, they weren’t bothered what it looked like!Blink
And also, regarding those towing hitches, I glued the outer ones onto the rear-most nut on the circular panels (these are actually the ends of the sprocket wheel axles inside the hull) but on at least one example in the Manual, they have been fitted on the forward-most nut instead! Quickie battlefield repairs perhaps? So the moral is with the Battle Tank in its infancy during the Great War, each one was much more of an 'individual' than we think!

In next week's instalment I’m returning to the trenches with a description of the three types of trench inner linings which will be constructed, together with a ‘How to’ on the first one! Until then take a look at the last photo. This is a little tool I’ve put together for a later part of the build. No prizes, but have a guess at what its for!Confused

Until next week, Happy building to All!


Robin
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First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale
Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault
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Hi Robin
Very nice progress, love all the little extra's your putting on that tank, and I mean little too!Laugh
Im going to hang on a bit before making my spuds to see how yours goBigGrin I plan on making a master and pressing this into a clay mould and then use melted solder to fill the moulds.
I also found the tracks nice to work with although they are horribly wrong in the pattern of the plates, I couldn't be bothered to change this though even at giant 1/35 scale.
Steve
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Hi Stevie!

Glad you like the exercise in microscopy!BigGrin I'll be trying to get those spuds done in a couple of weeks. At the moment I've got five of them glued to a sprue ready to make up a mould. I was surprised how (fairly) easy they were to make up. The first few I tried to make individually, but they were just too ruddy small to handle so in the end I used a strip of plasticard cut to the width of the 'blade' part and drew the shape of the spud on the end, then used a needle type diamond dust grinding tool to gently carve out half the thickness to leave the blade shape with a lip around the edge. A length of the rail styrene strip to form the 'T' and another piece cut down to 2/3rds and cut with bevelled ends to form the central 'spine'. All told each one took around five minutes to form, if the moulding doesn't go to plan I'll just make them all out of the plastic. The ones along the floor won't even need to be ground down either!BigGrin
A couple of weeks in the trenches and I hope to have some pics to illustrate the spuds to finish off the first tank completely! (Wishful thinking!)Blink

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Hi Robin, every time I look in at your build I end up with a WOW feeling.... inspirational and beautiful to see..... Love Love Love .. Looking forward to the next instalment....Cool Cool ..

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Hi Robin.

Them'z rightz, ya kno? Gorgeous work!!! ThumpUpThumpUpThumpUp

Oh, and interesting that you mentioned the HMS Exeter, as she was part of the ABDA-fleet that the de Ruyter led in the battle of the Jave Sea. The Exeter received a new and lower bridge, as compared with the earlier built York. And although the Exeter was built way before the de Ruyter, she had a more modern brige setup without the higgledy-piggledy arrangement of the de Ruyter, which looked more like the command centre structure of the German Panzerschiffe.

I would love to do a 1:250 Exeter to compare the structures but so far I haven't found one yet. Sad

But let that be my worry. You just concentrate on your Ridge, you hear? WinkWinkWink

Oh, and your Dr. Who models, of course!!

LOLLOLLOL

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#95 Posted : 21 May 2014 20:40:14

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Many thanks indeed to Stevie, Alan and Adrie, gratefully received again. Blushing
I never knew that the Exeter was remodelled after the River Plate but I suppose that would have been the ideal time to do it, she was little more than a floating hulk when she got back to Devonport!Blink

Ok, it's back to the trenches for a couple of weeks!


Part Twenty Four:

“Into the Trenches!”

Old Joe Whip, mounted on the parapet
Old Joe Whip, a Mills bomb in his hand,
Old Joe Whip, he stopped a blooming whizzbang,
Now he's a bomber in the promised land.


“Old Joe Whip, to the tune of Casey Jones”

Time for another little History Lesson! Discounting a simple dug out trench with no re-inforcement to the sides and a purely sandbagged defensive position, there are three main types of trench linings, each of which was used by all sides in the Great War. I will be employing all three in the diorama to various degrees, one of them is fairly self explanitory but the other two will require scratch built items to complete the effect. (Photos of the Messines trenches courtesy of the Channel 5 Archaeology program.)
The first and most basic is the wicker work panel or screen. This was constructed in the centuries old method as used by basket weavers and almost all pre-industrial occupations from shepherds to eel fishermen. The panel consists of a simple line of stakes pushed or hammered into the ground and then criss-crossed by thinner flexible wands or “withys”, usually of hazel or willow branches which are very bendy but almost any type of wood could be used if the branches were green-wood (not seasoned). These wicker panels can be clearly seen in Photos 1 and 2. In most cases, thicker stakes or posts would be hammered in at regular intervals to add extra strength to the panels. These posts would also be used as convenient points for securing the various wires and cables so necessary for the front line communications (see Photo 3 with it’s dozens of insulators hammered into the posts!) Although many of the main front line firing trenches can be seen with wicker work in place, this medium was used almost by default in the smaller winding communications trenches like the one beside the bunker. How to construct this material in miniature will be the subject of the mini tutorial in this instalment!
Secondly, the next most common building material for the trench sides (and other locations as we will see later) is good old ‘wriggly tin’ or corrugated iron as it was more ‘properly’ called. Corrugated iron is simply a flat sheet of thin steel which has been placed into a high pressure stamping press which forces the flat sheet into a serpentine shape when seen edge on. (Everybody knows what the damned stuff is but I have to make the effort!!)Blink Anyway, the corrugations or ‘ridges and valleys’ give the sheet far more rigidity than a plain flat one, allowing piles of sandbags or earth to be piled on top for extra protection when used horizontally, ie, roofs etc. In the case of the trench sides however, the sheets can be used either side ways or on end to suit the situation required. Going back to Photo 1, there is a single sheet of this material stuck up in the centre of the photo whilst in Photo 3 both sides of the trench are formed from sheets used horizontally. The normal method of fixing these sides in place is to simply hammer in fairly thick posts on the inside of the trench to keep the sheets from falling inwards. How to create these sheets for free will be the subject of next week’s instalment (as long as I can get the photos done! I’ve made some sheets up during the experiments stage but I’ve slightly changed the methods now so I’ll need to start the ‘How to’ from scratch!)
Also in Photo 3 but mainly in Photo 4 you can see the third main type of lining – wooden planking! This is the self explanitary one, familiar to all those of us embroiled in our wooden ships! The planking will be made up from the Costas Coffee wooden drink stirrers just as the wooden floor of the bunker was.
The wooden planking was generally used in areas where little ‘extras’ like the hinged grenade store were kept. One such cache is shown in Photo 4 after the rusted on door was prised off, revealing a locker full of live stick grenades inside!. This is right outside the entrance to the bunker and although the original had a roof over the top effectively making it a tunnel entrance, I’m going to incorporate the feature in an open fire trench but still roughly in the same place with regards to the bunker which is of course, now a heavy MG position as well.
With regards to Photo 3, what does seem a little strange is that there are two sets of fire-steps pointing in opposite directions! Since normally you would only expect the fire-step to point towards the direction of the enemy, I have an idea that this trench is actually a much larger communications trench (backed up by the number of telephone cables running along it) but is also a fall back position in the event of the front lines being over run (as indeed they were during the first few hours of Messines). This trench is probably running east to west and so you could expect to see advancing enemy infantry moving eastwards on both sides of this position from where the Germans could fire into both flanks of the Allied troops either side of them.
Photos 5 and 6 illustrate where I am anticipating placing the various trench sides. So far, I have just finished the wicker sides of the left hand trench leaving the bunker (down by the number 5). I had planned to join the wicker work to the bunker with a single sheet of corrugated iron, but now that I’ve done the panel and slid the bunker unit into place for a check on the fit, the wicker is so snug and tight against the bunker wall that I think I’ll just leave it as it is!BigGrin Pictures of that area to follow in a few weeks.
And now on to the ‘How to’ tutorial on making up scale wicker fencing. You’ll have to please excuse the confusing photo numbering. I did this section months ago during the early working out sessions and it was originally designed to be a stand alone tutorial without the introduction above so unfortunately the photos start from 1 again!Blushing
Many, many years ago before the introduction of photo-etched brass sets and a thousand and one other commercial products for us busy modellers, there was an age undreamed of …(or was that the intro to Conan?) Anyway, back then, if you made up your airfix biplane and you wanted to rig her up with the bracing wires, you either used the finest thread you could get (very fiddly) or you did this … welcome to the ancient art of stretched sprue!
Now as 99% of readers will know, ‘Sprue’ is the waste plastic which joins all the pieces of a plastic model kit together. It is a part of the moulding process and is simply the channel down which the molten plastic is pumped to form the kit parts. When the kit is made, the sprue usually goes in the bin (recycle bin I hope!) but in actual fact, this ‘waste’ is incredibably useful stuff!
The first diagram explains it all but, I must emphasize! This should only be carried out by an adult or at the least under adult supervision as the process requires a naked flame heat source – namely a candle!
For this demonstration I wanted to produce a brown sprue example so I am afraid to admit that I nicked a bit of sprue from my years old unmade Revell kit of the Sovereign of the Seas. I must do a review of this little beauty soon, when I do you’ll see the missing sprue sections! The actual wicker panels I’m constructing now are grey/green in colour, exactly the same colour as the Emhar MkIV tank in fact!Blink
The procedure is dead simple once you get the hang or ‘feel’ for it. It is more of an art than an exact science but once learnt you never forget it.
In ‘1’, a length of sprue is cut to size and held about an inch over the candle flame, slowly turning it like cooking on a spit. The first thing to look for is a slight bulging in the plastic and a change in the appearance as the surface of the sprue turns shiny (2). Keeping the softening sprue above the flame, keep gently turning it until the straight piece of sprue begins to flex and become ‘floppy’ (3). This is the point which is more art than science and only trying it can teach you the right moment but when it comes, remove the wobbly sprue from above the flame and gently but firmly pull the two ends apart (4). The further apart you pull it, the thinner the sprue will become and you can literally get it finer than a human hair if you want it like that! But caution is required! As soon as you feel a tug or resistance in the pull, that’s the time to stop! Pulling any further will result in the stretched portion snapping and the resulting halves curling up like a corkscrew!
The photo below the diagram illustrates some of the stretched sprue results. As you can see, the thicknesses obtained are very variable which is exactly want I want for the wicker effect as it gives a very natural random look to the finished article. Going back to the biplane rigging, once cut into lengths, the stretched sprue is completely straight and rigid enough to be cut to size and glued into place with ordinary polystyrene cement (which is all we had back then!)
For this demo I just drilled a line of tiny holes into a piece of plywood and stuck the thicker ‘posts’ into the holes (without gluing) as in the NEW Photo 1 below. The thinner lengths were then just threaded between the posts, alternating front and back positions as they were built up the posts as in Photos 2 and 3. Once the fence was complete, the whole thing was painted with Humbrol Liquid Poly using the built in brush in the bottle. This has two beneficial effects, firstly, it binds the whole structure together, bonding the ‘withys’ to the posts and to each other, and secondly, the poly cement reacts with the surface of the sprue giving it a ‘crackled’ surface which by pure accident looks just like wood bark! This demo piece was then painted both sides with Citadel Spearstaff Brown and then given a wash of Humbrol Dark Brown Enamel Wash. I have since experimented on this piece with a drybrush of Citadel Grey which produced a beautiful weathered effect which will fit in perfectly with the ‘real’ weathered wood along side it.
So that’s it! A simple procedure (under supervision for younger modellers!) which, once mastered creates a thousand useful things from what was basically ‘waste’ From aircraft (and ship) rigging (see my 1/700 scale finished ship thread) to aerials and, in my case, the towing hitches on a MkIV Tank! Remember I said I’d explain how I made them later? Streched sprue!, heated as above but pulled around a piece of aluminium tube of the right diameter held in a vice before it went hard again to form the ‘U’ shape! Simples!BigGrin
So for the next instalment I’ll try and get the tutorial for making corrugated iron put together. You’ll never guess where the raw material for that comes from!! Blink

Happy Modelling till then!


Robin
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Trench Linings Pic 1.JPG
Trench Linings Pic 2.JPG
Wicker work fencing Part 1 Pic.JPG
Wicker work fencing Part 2 Pic.JPG
First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale
Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault
Index for the Victory diary is on page 1
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W-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW !!!!!!!!!

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You really have done it now, Robin! I know from personal experience how tricky it can be to draw thin rods like that and those were just small strands for masts or radio aerials!

To do that for such a long length to get sufficient material for several walls?

Madness, I tell you. ABSOLUTE madness!

Done to an excellent standard, mind you!

ThumpUpThumpUpThumpUp

Oh, and I'm sorry if I misled you. The Exeter was not that drastically changed after the River Plate battle, but it was constructed after the York had been and the builders learned enough to change the Exeter whilst building it. The York found out that for instance the B turret roof was not strong enough to carry a catapult, which had been planned there. And because of the catapult, the bridge was put further back, which wasn't necessary for the Exeter since the catapult was designed to be put in a different place.

But enough about that!.

Let's turn back to the topic at hand.

Madness, I tell you! ABSOLUTE madness!

But sooooooo nicely done!

I'm SOOOOOOOOOO envious of your skills and perseverance!!

Adrie.

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Hi Robin, your skills never cease to amaze me..... where do you get your inspirational, off the cuff ideas for resolving modelling problems from..... You certainly have a special talent and am so chuffed you share it all with us..... Drool Drool .. Outstanding work and so looking forward to the next episode.....Love Drool Love Drool

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Hi Robin,

Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love

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#99 Posted : 22 May 2014 16:45:25

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Thank you all so much for those lovely comments! It is such a reward for all the brain work that goes in to a model like this, especially when the original plan of action keeps getting altered and rearranged as I come up with 'up-grades and improvements' to what I had originally thought up!Blink
I get what you mean now about the Exeter Adrie: improvements in her original build due to lessons learnt on the York!Blushing I'm sure at the back of the attic, buried under 101 other 'youth built kits' I have another HMS Exeter! Much larger than the Matchbox 1/700, she's got to be at least 18" long and I think, might be an old Frog kit! I must try and get to her one day and maybe a re-build and super-detail project for the future?
Thinking back to that Revell SOTS kit, I've just had an idea (probably insane!) I was going to build her in a year or two, changing the bulkheads to match Alan's masterpiece etc. (That's not the insane bit!BigGrin ) The bit that might be, is to replace all the heavily oversized moulded shrouds and rat lines, and maybe ALL the rigging with plastic alternatives made from her own stretched sprue! The real beauty with that stuff is when using the really thin lengths you can obtain lovely natural 'droops' and curves not available with the kit thread in that scale! There's a thought!Crying
And Derek! Blushing Blushing Blushing Blushing Blushing Blushing Blushing Blushing Blushing Blushing !!!


And finally, here's a sneak preview of what the full height wicker work looks like!

See you soon!

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#100 Posted : 22 May 2014 19:24:51

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BigGrin Wow just fantastic lovely work Robin Drool Rgd Martyn
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