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Plymouth57
#121 Posted : 27 August 2017 17:14:51

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Thanks again to Mark, Tony, Al and May! That wardrobe was just perfect for what I wanted although at the moment its a case of shifting all the pile up from off the working desk and on to the new one whilst I re-organize the original to gain more elbow room. When I've finally got it right I'll post a before and after shot as a warning to all young modellers NOT to let it get so bad themselves!Blushing Crying LOL

Carrying on from last week, here’s another shot of the hub in Photo 13 still on the resin plug, this time side on so you can see the conical front section a little clearer. The plug was then removed from the jaws of the mini lathe and cut to length as shown in Photo 14. The next job was to drill locating holes at the position of the nine cylinders. Unfortunately my drilling skills were a little shaky on that day and the holes were a little shall we say “misaligned” (they weren’t all dead centre!)Blushing I then decided to replace the holes with a series of punched plasticard disks, each one centred on the cylinder position. This was much easier to accomplish and seemed a good idea at the time – later on it wasn’t quite so good! With the disks in place I then proceeded to drill a set of holes to take the plastic rod bolt heads, the first ones are shown going in in Photo 15. I began with one beside each cylinder disk and once completed added another in between them with the final result shown in Photo 16. Each hole then had a small piece of hexagonal 0.8mm plastruct rod glued in and trimmed to size with a razor blade and light sanding. The rear face of the hub required two disks of thin plasticard, one of 6mm diameter and one of 9mm (punched out with my newly acquired leather punches). This is where I discovered that my workbench was fine up to 6mm but hammering out the 9mm resulted in earthquake like re-arranging of my tools and model supplies – I ended up by hammering the disk outdoors, resting the cutting board on the patio concrete slabs!Blink The same number of holes were then drilled into the lower disk after gluing both to the hub with superglue, this time the smaller bolts were made from stretched sprue, the full procedure is illustrated in Photos 17 and 18.
Photo 19 shows the construction of the first trial engine under way. As mentioned earlier, I am trying to create a castable finished engine, which I could use in future models. At this point I had no idea whether I would be able to cast the whole engine in one go, or whether I would have to have separate hubs and cylinders. What I did was to hedge my bets. Before continuing with the Master copy I first created a silicone mould of the hub alone to go with the cylinder mould. Once I was certain that I could cast perfect hubs I could then risk using the original one in a single piece casting. Two of the first hub castings are shown on the right in this photo. They have come out pretty well apart from some air bubble problems with getting all the ring of bolts to come out as you can see here. I have since managed to overcome that issue as you will see in later installments but I was happy enough with the first copies to carry on building the 'all in one' attempt shown on the left. What I should point out however, is that the ‘biggie’ is not in fact being put together in this shot – its being pulled apart again! As I said, those spacing disks around the hub seemed like a good idea at the time, I built the whole thing up and tried it on No.2’s firewall – guess what – it was too big to fit inside the cowling! The real thing only just spins around inside the metal cowling and by adding those disks to the hub I’d pushed the cylinders out just a little too far! The only option was to snap each cylinder off one by one and super glue it back on again minus the plasticard disk. All but a couple came off very cleanly with the disk still fixed to the cylinder from where it could be sliced off easily. One came off leaving the disk on the hub, which was a little more difficult to remove and the last one shown here came off half and half. Eventually it all went back together and the re-built Master Le Rhone is shown sitting on the cocktail stick in the front of No.2 in Photo 20. This of course means that the hub castings with the built in disks are now in need of some re-engineering of their own, but probably only if the single casting method doesn’t go well. The next task therefore is to produce yet another silicone mould to attempt to cast the engine all in one piece, and more on that in the next installment!
(Quick preview - it actually went pretty darned well!BigGrin )

Until then, Happy Modelling to you All!

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#122 Posted : 27 August 2017 19:55:22

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Shaky or not, excellent work. Your detailing is second to non.BigGrin Drool

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#123 Posted : 27 August 2017 22:45:14

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Great piece of work Robin, loving the detailing.....Cool Cool

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#124 Posted : 27 August 2017 22:53:08

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Yet another masterclass from you Robin Cool super skills.

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Spal wrote:
Yet another masterclass from you Robin Cool super skills.

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Hi,
Couldn't agree more, exceptional talent on display BigGrin

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#126 Posted : 29 August 2017 12:18:22

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Great scratch building on the engineDrool superb workBigGrin regards PhilCool
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#127 Posted : 29 August 2017 13:35:00

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Hi Robin.
Great work on the engines.
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#128 Posted : 03 September 2017 21:07:57

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Grateful thanks as always to Mark, Alan, Al, May, Phil and Ian!Blushing The re-arrangement of my workroom is continuing (slowly), how on earth did I acquire so much rubbish up there? That, along with waiting for an item to arrive to complete the engine (which I couldn't resist) is delaying the completion of this section. Its coming along nicely though and I've been doing some work on the undercarriage of No.2 in between trying to cast a certain part (not the best designed mould apparently!)Blushing Anyway, here's a part of the engine...

Hopefully, as you can see from Photo 21, the all in one casting mould did in fact work. I didn’t actually take any photos during the process but I’ve since taken a few to fill in the gaps as you’ll see below. The three examples shown here are ‘rejects’, they have some small details missing or some other defect (one of them has a complete set of air bubbles on the rear of the cylinders) but for this purpose – a trial of different painting techniques, they are perfectly adequate. In the first photo all three have been given a spray of Poundshop grey primer. The top and right hand ones have some missing bolt heads on the hub, the left hand one has a perfect hub but is ‘Backside Bubbles’ as I’m come to call him!
Photo 22 illustrates the basic undercoats applied over the grey primer. As the captions show, the top one was painted with Humbrol Steel Metalcote, the left engine was given a coat of Citadel Mithril Silver acrylic whilst the last one on the right had a coat of Humbrol Matt Black Enamel. Despite being a relatively new tinlet, the Matt Black was so thick it took longer to paint in all the nooks and crannies on No.3 than the other two combined. (The following day I found my Matt Black aerosol tin I was searching for!Cursing ) In Photo 23 the next stage or layer was applied. The Metalcote engine was given a polish with cotton buds and a duster cloth, the shine was actually greater than the effect shown here – probably the lighting has toned it down. The black one was given a dusting with Uschi van der Rosten Steel Polishing powder, again applied with cotton buds, this brought it up to look almost the same as the Metal Cote version as you can see here. The Mithril Silver one was given a wash of Citadel Skaven Brown Ink (water-based), this produced the most realistic effect I think but this is mainly due to the fact that the actual engine isn’t a dark steel in appearance, but a lighter aluminium so the two steel treatments were at a disadvantage to begin with. Finally in Photo 24, I’ve given the two steel engines a light dry brushing of the Mithril Silver to bring out the highlights. This made quite a difference to the Metalcote version, increasing the shine and lightening the overall finish. The Uschi powdered engine was also lightened a little and improved around the raised details. After staring at the three for some time I’ve decided to go with the acrylic Mithril and wash technique for two main reasons – firstly and most importantly, it’s the closest in ‘metallic’ tone to the original and secondly, because this method doesn’t require any polishing to bring out the lustre, I can add on the fiddly little rocker arms and push rods before the painting begins, the other two techniques would have meant adding them on after the main body of the engine was painted or polished. Never mind though, I’ve got that Uschi powder lined up for the undercarriage struts down the line!
As for the casting of the entire engine body in resin, that has gone quite well. I began with the usual box of lego bricks with a bed of plasticene into which the made up resin engine was lightly pushed – I’ve learnt a little trick with this stuff now, when I’m ready to make up a mould during the evening, I leave the plasticene block on top of the power supply for the Rotacraft rotary tool. Its always warm to the touch and by the time I need the plasticene the block is all nice and soft and much easier to work with!Cool Photo 25 shows the front part of the silicon mould which is in fact the bottom of the mould. If you compare this with the other half which is illustrated in Photo 26, along with a resin casting, you can see that the other half of the mould is not as deep as the first. By pushing the engine only lightly into the softened plasticene rather than half way, the join line (if any) appears around the back of the cylinders not down the middle. You might also notice that the top half of the mould has a hole down the middle, this is to allow the trapped air to escape during the moulding process. You might also notice that the engine casting is white instead of the buff colour my resin castings have been up till now. This is another of DWR Plastics products – the same kind of epoxy resin but this one has a much longer set or cure time – ten to fifteen minutes instead of the three minutes for the buff coloured one. I thought I’d try this one because some of the moulds require some ‘help’ to spread the resin into the nooks and crannies during the pouring. This mould is one of those but since I bought the new resin I’ve managed to speed up my techniques a bit and I can now get the same results from the old resin as well!Blink
The technique for casting the engine is as follows – mix up the resin with equal weights of Part A and B using a coffee shop wooden stirrer to do the mixing. Pour enough resin into just the central hub of the deep mould and then use the tip of the stirrer to rub all around the ring of bolts – this solves the problem I had earlier of air bubbles in the ring. Fill the rest of the mould up until every cylinder is filled in and poke a blunt cocktail stick into the top of each cylinder, removing any air bubbles in the top details. Drip a little resin into the hub on the other mould and again rub the mixing stick around for the same reason then pour enough resin into that mould to fill in the cylinders too. Then, as quickly as possible, pick up the second mould and place it down securely onto the first, squeeze it slightly to expel any air in the middle and then carefully pour the resin down the air hole in the centre. One more gentle squeeze and then leave the resin to set. This isn’t too bad with the longer setting resin but as you can imagine, you have to move pretty smartly with the three minute one!
Once the casting is set and removed, the first task is to remove the unwanted ‘axle’ from the rear (which was the air escape and is now full of resin) and drill a tiny pilot hole in the centre of the disk. There is a rear section of the engine (which you haven’t seen yet), which will be cast with a 4mm shaft to join it to the main body. To allow for that, the centre of the engine has to have a 4mm diameter hole drilled into the resin. The thing is, in order for the flat ended shaft to fit in properly, the hole has to be flat bottomed too! Not having had an engineering background it took me ages to find out how the heck you get a flat bottomed hole – the answer (as I expect many on here will know instantly) – is an End Mill Cutter. If you’re like me, you’ve never heard of it either! Photo 27 shows that white casting now drilled and milled together with the 4mm drill bit and an End Mill Cutter (though not the one used here I hasten to add!) I bought a 4mm EMC from UK suppliers and then for about two pound more bought an entire set of ten from China (1mm to 10mm) this is the 10mm shown here just for clarity. The end result is far easier to see on the buff coloured casting so in Photo 28 we have the rear face of the earlier Mithril Silvered engine after drilling and milling the shaft.
Finally for this installment, in Photo 29 we have the first stage of that rear section. This is the High Tension pick-up disk which will eventually have an HT lead going to each cylinder’s spark plug. It begins with two plasticard disks of 6mm and 8mm, both punched out of the sheet and glued together with a 4mm diameter hole in the centre. It is illustrated here with the 4mm aluminium tube which will later form the central shaft, and sat on the card template showing the nine cylinder alignments. In the next installment I will carry on with this section whilst hoping an essential part to complete the engine arrives soon. Oh, and I spend an entire evening shaping a piece of copper tube about half an inch long!Blink

Until then, Happy Modelling to you All!

Robin.
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First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale
Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault
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Incredible patience and fab detailing Robin, very well done....Cool Cool

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The tube at the rear of the engine could be a single tube in early aircraft that exited into the cockpit to draw air into the carburetta to mix it with the fuel, later Le Rhone engines had an additional 'T ' bar added that exited on either side of the fuselage to give an improved air supply. It must also be noted that any throttle control was severely limited in these engines once started they literally run themselves, yes there was the 'Burpe' switch/lever that gave a short power boost but that was it until the German manufacturer noted below enabled a crude engine throttle.

The downfall of the rotary engine was the fuel/air supply as it was an atmospheric supply and not boosted by a turbine to force the air/fuel mixture into the cylinders. Adding another bank of cylinders as was tried and even a third just resulted in a fuel/air starvation because of this. The standard explanation of the demise of the rotary engine usually blamed on the lubricant used in these engines IE 'castor oil' was nothing to do with it just a simple air/fuel supply.

A German engine producer did give a step forward on controlling the torque produced by these engines as follows:- 'The powerplant for the Siemens-schuckert D.111 was a Siemens-Halske Sh III 160 hp, 11-cylinder counter rotary engine. A standard rotary turned cylinders and propeller on a stationary crankshaft, turning in one direction at 1800 rpm, but on the Seimens-Schuckert, the propeller and the cylinders turned at 900 rpm in one direction, while and the crankshaft turned 900 rpm in the opposite direction. This counteracted the torque inherent in the standard rotary and produced a maximum of 210hp.'

The picture's below give examples of the carburetta tubes although this only shows the later 'T' bar configuration the earlyer type just having the carburreta attached to the end of the intake tube.
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Hi Robin,

Great update and an interesting insight into two part casting which I must confess I've had nightmares with in the past Blushing

May.
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Incredible work, and a great insight into casting.Love

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Many thanks there to Alan, Andy, May and Mark!Blushing And thanks to Andy for those pics. I've been using that 'oldhanger.com' for a lot of the reference material, especially as here, for the engine details! Highly recommend them to all modellers looking for good photo references.Cool
And you are correct, that rear tube is the carburettor air intake and my particular model, the 9c has those side mounted intake tubes as we'll see later! In fact those two pics nicely show the differences between the earlier 9c and the later, more advanced 9j. Although they look very similar, the bottom pic is the 9j with the copper intakes moved back to the rear of the centre hub as compared to the less powerful 9c where they slope to the front. Anyhow, on with the considerably smaller resin version!BigGrin


Beginning with Photo 30 we have those two disks making up the HT lead gizmo, now with the lead connector positions marked out in pencil. The connectors themselves are simply lengths of stretched sprue with the ends fashioned into ‘bulbs’ by moving them close to the candle until the ends melt into shape. By holding the bulb end against the inner disk I could then mark the sprue against the outer edge of the larger disk and trim the lengths to size as shown in Photo 31 up against the traditional penny for size. The connectors are shown glued into position in Photo 32, as the disks are plasticard and the connectors are plastic sprue I was able to glue them in with simple liquid poly instead of the usual super glue. Photos 33 and 34 show the disks super glued onto the aluminium shafts to complete the master copy for the silicon mould. The actual inner shaft is 4mm diameter to mate up with the 4mm diameter milled hole in the back of the engine casting whilst the larger shaft is 5mm outside diameter. If you look closely at both photos you can just make out a series of ridges in the end of the larger shaft. This is just incidental ‘adornment’ as the aluminium tubing used for the shafts is actually the left-over tube used to create the master copy of the individual cylinders earlier on!Blushing Photo 35 illustrates one of the finished cast resin pieces which, as you can see, apart from a few tiny air bubbles which are easily cut away, came out quite well. I should really have shown the silicon mould before the finished article, but that photo was the wrong shape to fit in here so the silicon mould and the casting are shown next in Photo 36. At long last I’m starting to get the hang of this resin casting lark! Instead of complicated moulds with built in resin injection via syringes, I’m finding its easier to create a simpler two part mould which is actually used as two single moulds. This sounds complicated but is quite simple in practise. In the case of this mould, the mixed resin is poured into the mould shown on the left and the liquid resin is ‘massaged’ into the dips using the mixing stick and/or cocktail sticks, this part actually creates the resin casting seen on the right hand side. I then apply a little resin to the right hand mould and quickly place the two moulds together. A gentle squeeze is all it takes to expel any large air bubbles out through the shaft hole through the right hand mould and if the resin level drops down after doing that, a little more resin is dripped down the hole forming the larger shaft shown earlier. I’ve found that this applying the resin to both moulds before joining them together works really well even on some of the earlier moulds which were designed for simple pouring in of resin - and it uses far less resin too.Cool Returning back to the main engine casting, you might remember I removed the rocker arms from the cylinder master because of air bubble problems, now it was time to put them back on! Photo 37 shows the first set of rocker arms under construction. Like the HT connectors, these are also stretched sprue with a bulbous end but, this time, whilst the bulb is still soft from the heat it is gently squeezed in the long nosed flat pliers to flatten it out as shown here. The object was to just flatten the ends, not the shaft so a couple of those shown here were replaced with better ones later! When I’d finally managed a complete set of nine good ones they were then super glued onto the tiny little central shaft at the top of each cylinder at right angles to the cylinder itself as illustrated in Photo 38. To complete the rocker arm assembly each one then needs a push rod, again formed from good old stretched sprue which runs from the end of the flattened rocker arm down to the outer rim on the front of the engine hub as shown in Photo 39.
Now came the most infuriating and fiddly part of the whole scratch built engine – those flaming (other words are more descriptiveBlushing ) copper intake tubes! I tried all sorts of ways to make these things – filing down thick brass rod, heat bending plastic rod, hammering copper earth wire from mains cable and many more, I even bought a bottle of copper coloured paper clips in Poundland but to no avail. In the end I finally managed to create a fairly close example from guess what – like the original, copper tubing! This was actually the second try at this. I attempted copper tube early on and rejected it as too difficult to get right. It was only when I found all the other methods absolutely impossible to get right that I returned to the earlier reject and worked all evening, rolling it flatter here and curving it more there until I eventually ended up with this little chap – half an inch of compound curves and ovoid cross section. I spent so much time and effort into getting this single one right there was no way in hell I was going to hand craft the other eight! The final set would be resin!BigGrin As mentioned earlier, the actual tubes are two part assemblies and Photo 40 shows the joining lip being formed by tying a single strand of wire around the copper piece ready to solder it in place. Photo 41 illustrates the final master copy ready for mould making. I trimmed the master to size by grinding away the excess with the diamond dust wheel on the rotary tool, this had the added bonus of creating a nice little flange at both ends (just as intended of course!)Flapper
In the next instalment, creating a mould for the copper intake (much harder than anticipated) and putting the whole engine together at last!

Until then, Happy Modelling to you All!


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First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale
Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault
Index for the Victory diary is on page 1
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Brilliant work RobinDrool love your scratch buildingDrool Drool well done so farBigGrin BigGrin regards PhilCool
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Robin

Really enjoying your build and very interested in seeing how you are making so many if your own parts. Some very skilled work indeed.

Hope it all continues well.
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Always an interesting and information packed update from you Robin Cool lovely work.

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Lovely work again Robin, love seeing your updates.

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#138 Posted : 17 September 2017 17:04:32

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Grateful thanks as always to Phil, Tony, Al and Mark! This installment finalises the scratch-built Le Rhone 9C Rotary Engine. As I mention at the end, I can quite understand how much satisfaction Kev gets out of his upgraded racing car engines now. This little one is quite basic compared to his and the miniscule size of the PE add ons Kev is putting in is amazing!Cool To me, real engines are still dirty oily things to be avoided at all costs - but I'll make an exception for this little one!BigGrin

So carrying on from last week, Photo 42 illustrates the first attempt at creating the mould for the copper intake tubes. As you can see here I’ve added a plastic square rod at each end with the joint filed down to marry up with the ‘flange’ on the copper tubing itself to form a ‘sprue’. The actual mould box in Lego with the base of plasticene is shown in Photo 43. The liquid silicon rubber was poured in to this box and when set, the plasticene was removed, the exposed face of the first silicon block was given three coats of liquid wax mould release and the second half of the mould poured on top. Once set and pulled apart, the lower sprue was extended to the edge of the mould to form an air hole (or bubble release). Unfortunately this design was not a great success, for some reason the two sprues seemed to suck out the resin whilst it was still liquid leaving me with a pair of perfect sprues and either nothing at all in the centre or at best a hollow resin bubble in the shape of the intake (actually about as realistic as you could get but so fragile it just broke up on removal from the mould)Crying . After half a dozen failures I decided to re-make the mould. This time I only used the bottom sprue which was butted up against the Lego box. Again a two part mould with most of the depth of the piece in the first half and a mere ‘impression’ in the second. This one worked well however. Instead of trying to pour the liquid resin down the hole in the mould I simply mixed the resin up and used the mixing stick to dribble some resin into the deeper mould (whilst leaning it on a slight incline to stop the liquid resin running out the end) and also applied a dribble over the impression half as well. I then quickly placed the two halves of the mould together leaving them standing upright. The edge channels I’d cut into the deeper half (filled with silicon on the second half pouring) provided enough of a seal that the rubber mould didn’t require any rubber bands to keep it together as the silicon set. As you can see in Photo 44, the new mould gave almost consistently good results – I used both the standard 3 minute resin and the longer 15 minute type (white castings) and both came out fine so most of the nine intakes were made with the cheaper 3 minute mix! I’d already managed to get three good casts from the first mould before these pics were taken so Photo 45 shows the remaining six during the painting process, previously undercoated with Poundshop grey primer and then painted in acrylic copper. I was going to do the main shaft in Admiralty Copper and the top section in Vallejo Copper but the Admiralty one didn’t come out very well so in the end the whole thing was done with the Vallejo. With the pull rods and rocker arms all fitted, the engine, together with the rear HT disk assembly was given a good coat of Citadel Mithril Silver as shown in Photo 46. The next evening the two components were given the Citadel Skaven Brown ink wash treatment as per the trial version seen earlier. The resultant ‘dirtied’ engine can be seen alongside the little item I couldn’t resist in Photo 47 – a set of amazingly detailed 1/32 scale resin sparkplugs! You’d think in this scale a sparkplug would be a sparkplug, but no! Taurus Models from Poland produce a whole range of ridiculously tiny resin doo-dahs for just about any WW1 aircraft from separate cylinders and those rocker arms through sets of nuts and bolts to these beautiful sparkplugs (which are available in British, German and French designs and also early and late war versions!)Blink Curiously the packaging says twenty pieces although the set here is only ten plugs in total. Photo 48 shows the first two sparkplugs glued on with a drop of super glue, you can also just make out two of those first three copper intakes I made earlier (they’re also visible in the preceding photo too.) During the ‘sparkplugging’ sessions I also made up the HT disk wiring. In one of my reference photos the HT leads were clearly shown wearing some kind of insulation sheaving (probably that cotton or some other material insulation found on early electrical wiring before the advent of pvc (anyone else remember the old black rubber house mains wire?)BigGrin Anyhow, that EZ Line Rope I bought by mistake wasn’t a total waste after all! In Photo 49 lengths of the EZ Line has been super glued to the HT connectors around the disk and once all the sparkplugs and intakes had been fitted to the cylinders as shown in Photo 50, the shaft through the HT disk was finally glued into the milled hole in the engine hub as shown in Photo 51. In this shot the HT leads are in the process of being glued to the sparkplugs. This was achieved by attaching a miniature metal clip to the end of the EZ Line, adding a tiny blob of Roket Card Glue to the end of the plug and stretching the line over the plug where the weight of the clip keeps the line taut. Another drop of Roket was applied on the tip of the plug and left to dry. The final result of the HT harness is shown in Photo 52 after the excess EZ was snipped off. The completed engine is illustrated in the double Photo 53, attached to the aluminium tube fitted into the engine firewall by a brass rod, this forms both the axle for the engine and the fixing point for the airscrew which follows later.
Well, that’s my very first attempt at a completely scratch built engine – and I can understand now why Kev enjoys making the things so much! There’s something very satisfying in turning out a tiny object, which, at the end of all the work actually looks as if it might start up and run! At least now, if I find the front cowling too difficult to get right I can make a separate cowling, have it laying on the deck and have Dunning’s Pup undergoing engine maintenance!Blushing Flapper
In the next installment it’s back to Pup No.1 and the undercarriage!

Until then, Happy Modelling to you All!

Robin.
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First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale
Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault
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#139 Posted : 17 September 2017 21:11:10

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Looking really good with your scratchbuilt Le Rhone Robin, some excellent work going on there, well done!! Drool Cool ThumpUp

Sorry I haven't posted comment on your build recently, I keep missing your updates! Thanks for the mention about my miniscule 1:20 McLaren MP4/4 engine, much appreciated and yes, very satisfying when you finally reach the end of building such! I do like building engines and can't resist adding extra detail, hoping to continue with my 1:32 Spitfire Mk.IXc build with that perfect little Rolls Royce Merlin 66 once I've completed my McLaren.

Keep up the good work Robin, I'll try to pay more attention from now on! Blushing ThumpUp

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#140 Posted : 20 September 2017 14:14:29

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Hi Robin.
fantastic work on the Engines. they look very realistic. enjoying watching this one come together. Ian Cool BigGrin
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