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#1421 Posted : 24 July 2013 23:20:57

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She looks fabulous AlanCool Cool Out of curiosity,have you pinned the wales on or do I need to go back to specsavers?LOL
Kind Regards Nigel
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NMBROOK wrote:
She looks fabulous AlanCool Cool Out of curiosity,have you pinned the wales on or do I need to go back to specsavers?LOL
Kind Regards Nigel


Hi Nigel and thanks for the very positive comments... BigGrin BigGrin .. You're ok, you don't need to go to specsavers but no, the wales are not pinned.... trusty cocktail sticks and treenailed but painted over.... looks good but the camera doesn't really give it justice....Cool Cool ..

Am also thinking about the beak framing and not too keen on the idea of having to stain it to match the sapele...Huh Huh .. Looking at possibly covering it with actual sapele planks and am now looking at the Italian forum to see if my idea will have unforeseen consequences later on in the build. The sapele strips would also go a long way to hiding a lot of the joints and intend to also line the holes before using 1mm grating....Cool Cool .. Just an idea at this stage.....Cool Cool .. Thanks again for looking in....BigGrin BigGrin

Regards

Alan
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#1423 Posted : 24 July 2013 23:35:34

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Gandale wrote:
NMBROOK wrote:
She looks fabulous AlanCool Cool Out of curiosity,have you pinned the wales on or do I need to go back to specsavers?LOL
Kind Regards Nigel


Hi Nigel and thanks for the very positive comments... BigGrin BigGrin .. You're ok, you don't need to go to specsavers but no, the wales are not pinned.... trusty cocktail sticks and treenailed but painted over.... looks good but the camera doesn't really give it justice....Cool Cool ..

Am also thinking about the beak framing and not too keen on the idea of having to stain it to match the sapele...Huh Huh .. Looking at possibly covering it with actual sapele planks and am now looking at the Italian forum to see if my idea will have unforeseen consequences later on in the build. The sapele strips would also go a long way to hiding a lot of the joints and intend to also line the holes before using 1mm grating....Cool Cool .. Just an idea at this stage.....Cool Cool .. Thanks again for looking in....BigGrin BigGrin

Regards

Alan

Go for it Alan,to my knowledge,I cannot see any repercussions with planking the prow deck.It may work out better not using stain.I left my gratings slightly proud when fitting them,this allows you to carefully sand everything flush and smooth.If you had stained the frame,the sanding would remove it.
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#1424 Posted : 24 July 2013 23:44:41

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NMBROOK wrote:
Gandale wrote:
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She looks fabulous AlanCool Cool Out of curiosity,have you pinned the wales on or do I need to go back to specsavers?LOL
Kind Regards Nigel


Hi Nigel and thanks for the very positive comments... BigGrin BigGrin .. You're ok, you don't need to go to specsavers but no, the wales are not pinned.... trusty cocktail sticks and treenailed but painted over.... looks good but the camera doesn't really give it justice....Cool Cool ..

Am also thinking about the beak framing and not too keen on the idea of having to stain it to match the sapele...Huh Huh .. Looking at possibly covering it with actual sapele planks and am now looking at the Italian forum to see if my idea will have unforeseen consequences later on in the build. The sapele strips would also go a long way to hiding a lot of the joints and intend to also line the holes before using 1mm grating....Cool Cool .. Just an idea at this stage.....Cool Cool .. Thanks again for looking in....BigGrin BigGrin

Regards

Alan

Go for it Alan,to my knowledge,I cannot see any repercussions with planking the prow deck.It may work out better not using stain.I left my gratings slightly proud when fitting them,this allows you to carefully sand everything flush and smooth.If you had stained the frame,the sanding would remove it.
Kind Regards Nigel


Thanks for the confirmation Nigel, have now made my mind up to go this route and thanks for the advice of leaving the gratings slightly proud of the prow deck frame...Cool Cool .. Just think why stain something to try to replicate an area or colour when you can actually use the real thing.....Cool Cool .. Still, have got to start and finish lining the ports first...BigGrin BigGrin

Regards

Alan
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#1425 Posted : 24 July 2013 23:50:33

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Gandale wrote:
NMBROOK wrote:
Gandale wrote:
NMBROOK wrote:
She looks fabulous AlanCool Cool Out of curiosity,have you pinned the wales on or do I need to go back to specsavers?LOL
Kind Regards Nigel


Hi Nigel and thanks for the very positive comments... BigGrin BigGrin .. You're ok, you don't need to go to specsavers but no, the wales are not pinned.... trusty cocktail sticks and treenailed but painted over.... looks good but the camera doesn't really give it justice....Cool Cool ..

Am also thinking about the beak framing and not too keen on the idea of having to stain it to match the sapele...Huh Huh .. Looking at possibly covering it with actual sapele planks and am now looking at the Italian forum to see if my idea will have unforeseen consequences later on in the build. The sapele strips would also go a long way to hiding a lot of the joints and intend to also line the holes before using 1mm grating....Cool Cool .. Just an idea at this stage.....Cool Cool .. Thanks again for looking in....BigGrin BigGrin

Regards

Alan

Go for it Alan,to my knowledge,I cannot see any repercussions with planking the prow deck.It may work out better not using stain.I left my gratings slightly proud when fitting them,this allows you to carefully sand everything flush and smooth.If you had stained the frame,the sanding would remove it.
Kind Regards Nigel


Thanks for the confirmation Nigel, have now made my mind up to go this route and thanks for the advice of leaving the gratings slightly proud of the prow deck frame...Cool Cool .. Just think why stain something to try to replicate an area or colour when you can actually use the real thing.....Cool Cool .. Still, have got to start and finish lining the ports first...BigGrin BigGrin

Regards

Alan

Totally agree Alan,I am not a fan of stain myself,so much so that I am going to replace my bowsprit with a walnut one,always had this in the back of my head,but I needed something to mock up the assembly and I wasn't prepared to start invading the walnut dowels I have from the Soleil Royal.It looks ok stained,but I know it would look better in walnut.
Kind Regards Nigel
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#1426 Posted : 25 July 2013 00:10:22

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Nigel, I am in agreement with you, so much so I am looking at replacing all the mast dowels with walnut dowels, some of which I have already from CMB.... Cool Cool .. Have a few other things in my mind that will make it all the more personal to me.....Cool Cool

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Alan
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#1427 Posted : 25 July 2013 18:01:48

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Very lovely alan, looking awesome BigGrin BigGrin
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#1428 Posted : 25 July 2013 18:47:58

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Hi Alan!
She´s looking absolutely nice, a top job you made!

Regards, Bernd
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#1429 Posted : 25 July 2013 22:29:31

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Admiral Anti Spiral wrote:
Very lovely alan, looking awesome BigGrin BigGrin


Thanks for the warm comments Admiral, have to say I'm very pleased with the progress so far....BigGrin BigGrin

Regards

Alan
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#1430 Posted : 25 July 2013 22:30:41

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Hi Alan!
She´s looking absolutely nice, a top job you made!

Regards, Bernd


Thanks Bernd, always appreciate you looking in.... Cool Cool

Regards

Alan
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#1431 Posted : 26 July 2013 23:05:13

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Have now attached the wales on the starboard side so while waiting for the glue to dry before trimming I thought I would at least make a start at lining gun ports....Crying Crying .. Considering I have never carried out this task before it was a case of fumbling through until I found a method I can live with... know this is also going to be a long winded job...Blink Blink ..

Had previously painted some 5 x .5mm birchwood strips... and started by measuring the width of the port using calipers...Cool Cool .. Once I had the measurement I could then transfer that onto the strip and cut using a razor saw....Cool Cool



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#1432 Posted : 26 July 2013 23:10:41

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Dry fitted the piece to ensure a nice fit and using serious glue fixed the piece in place...Cool Cool .. Found it a little awkward at first trying to gauge the .2mm inset considering it is less than the thickness of the Sapele strips...Blushing Blushing .. Continued to fit the lower port lining on all of the lower gun ports on the port side...Cool Cool .. This may be a slow way of doing the task but I feel so far it is by far the most accurate.... will continue with lining the ports tomorrow....BigGrin BigGrin

Happy building all

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#1433 Posted : 26 July 2013 23:15:56

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Hi Alan
Rather than use a razor saw,may I suggest you invest in an amati master cut chopper.Perfect square cuts with no cleaning up,at least at your thickness of material.It will make cutting these linings a breeze.By the way,are you showing off with the calipers on a port that is only 17 hundredths of a mm narrow?LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
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#1434 Posted : 26 July 2013 23:20:20

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Hi Alan
your ahead of me again.The linings look good so far,I may have been tempted to set them at where the bamboo and sapele meet as it is easier to keep the the same.
Kind Regards Nigel
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#1435 Posted : 26 July 2013 23:21:42

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Thanks for the tip Nigel, will have a look at the Amati chopper but think the job will probably be done by the time the thing arrives....BigGrin BigGrin .. LOL LOL LOL .. Sat here trying to figure out why my port was 17 hundredths out when I know it's exactly 13mm.... then it clicked...... I forgot to set the caliper to zero before measuring..... LOL LOL LOL Flapper Flapper Flapper LOL LOL

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Alan
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#1436 Posted : 26 July 2013 23:25:22

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NMBROOK wrote:
Hi Alan
your ahead of me again.The linings look good so far,I may have been tempted to set them at where the bamboo and sapele meet as it is easier to keep the the same.
Kind Regards Nigel


Have to agree with you Nigel, I know it will get easier the further into the lining I get.... Cool Cool

Regards

Alan
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#1437 Posted : 26 July 2013 23:29:02

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Thanks for the tip Nigel, will have a look at the Amati chopper but think the job will probably be done by the time the thing arrives....BigGrin BigGrin .. LOL LOL LOL .. Sat here trying to figure out why my port was 17 hundredths out when I know it's exactly 13mm.... then it clicked...... I forgot to set the caliper to zero before measuring..... LOL LOL LOL Flapper Flapper Flapper LOL LOL

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Alan

I would of done that before taking the picLOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL Flapper Flapper Flapper Flapper Flapper LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Kind Regards Nigel
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#1438 Posted : 26 July 2013 23:52:54

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NMBROOK wrote:
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Thanks for the tip Nigel, will have a look at the Amati chopper but think the job will probably be done by the time the thing arrives....BigGrin BigGrin .. LOL LOL LOL .. Sat here trying to figure out why my port was 17 hundredths out when I know it's exactly 13mm.... then it clicked...... I forgot to set the caliper to zero before measuring..... LOL LOL LOL Flapper Flapper Flapper LOL LOL

Regards

Alan

I would of done that before taking the picLOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL Flapper Flapper Flapper Flapper Flapper LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Kind Regards Nigel


Nah, decided I would just check your attention to detail capabilities.....Flapper Flapper Flapper
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#1439 Posted : 27 July 2013 00:16:41

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looks good alan, i think i have that same caliperBigGrin BigGrin the linings are looking good, im dreading this part because the hull just doesn't seem thick enough let alone to hold the linings in place, but it seems to work for you!BigGrin BigGrin
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#1440 Posted : 27 July 2013 00:21:58

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Admiral Anti Spiral wrote:
looks good alan, i think i have that same caliperBigGrin BigGrin the linings are looking good, im dreading this part because the hull just doesn't seem thick enough let alone to hold the linings in place, but it seems to work for you!BigGrin BigGrin


Hi Admiral, thanks for the nice comments and your looking in....Cool Cool .. You are spot on with you observations, there isn't a lot for the linings to hold onto which makes it very delicate work indeed, this is why I say it is going to be another lengthy process....Blink Blink .. It is also the reason I switched from using PVA to the serious glue, takes a good hold and you have time to manoeuvre the piece in place..... Cool Cool .. I dread it too but it needs to be done....LOL LOL LOL

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Alan
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