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Hi Alan, Nice work  Good tip with the change of glue! I think I will take up Nigel's advice and get an Amati cutter, I have a time to order. Keep up the good work. Claret Also working on:
SOTS.
Moebius 1/32 Flying Sub with PE & lights.
Waiting in the wings:
Polarlights Spindrift from Land of the Giants.
finished:
007 Iconic DB5.
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claret wrote:Hi Alan, Nice work Good tip with the change of glue! I think I will take up Nigel's advice and get an Amati cutter, I have a time to order. Keep up the good work. Claret Thanks Claret, appreciate the support....  Regards Alan
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Hi Alan. Coming along really well there! That black and red shows off the hull nicely too, well done M8. Those cutters are a really worthwhile investment. I couldn't afford the Amati one and went for a cheaper version by Linic Products Ltd, you get what you pay for though, mine hasn't got such a strong handle design so it can't cut quite as thick a piece of wood but it's still very useful for all that, (remember my plastic side steps!  ). The other 'cutter' I use a lot is the old safety razor blade, the ones with one sharp edge and the other under a rolled rounded metal edge. For wood strakes up to about 1mm it does the business (also ideal for carefully trimming off the excess rigging threads! Keep them coming Alan! Robin First wooden ship: The Grimsby 12 Gun 'Frigate' by Constructo Second: Bounty DelPrado Part Works Third: HMS Victory DelPrado Part Works 1/100 scale Diorama of the Battle of the Brandywine from the American Revolutionary War Diorama of the Battle of New Falkland (unfinished sci-fi), Great War Centenary Diorama of the Messines Ridge Assault Index for the Victory diary is on page 1
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Plymouth57 wrote:Hi Alan. Coming along really well there! That black and red shows off the hull nicely too, well done M8. Those cutters are a really worthwhile investment. I couldn't afford the Amati one and went for a cheaper version by Linic Products Ltd, you get what you pay for though, mine hasn't got such a strong handle design so it can't cut quite as thick a piece of wood but it's still very useful for all that, (remember my plastic side steps! ). The other 'cutter' I use a lot is the old safety razor blade, the ones with one sharp edge and the other under a rolled rounded metal edge. For wood strakes up to about 1mm it does the business (also ideal for carefully trimming off the excess rigging threads! Keep them coming Alan! Robin Hi Robin and thanks very much for the positive comments, I appreciate your continued support.... .. Am having a look at the amati cutter and will probably put an order in for one this weekend since it comes so highly recommended..... .. Thanks for the tips Robin, everyone of them a welcome.... Regards Alan
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Small update... continuing with lining the ports and have now completed the lower lining on each port on the port side, have also completed the upper lining on the lower row of ports... .. Am finding it easier the more I do. Also as there isn't a lot of surface for the lining to hold onto I found if the lining is a tight fit it holds nicely without any problems, too loose a fit and its likely to fall off... .. Obviously it shouldn't be so tight that it needs to be forced.... .. More of the same tomorrow... Regards Alan Gandale attached the following image(s):
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Coming on well Alan Lining the ports is one of those jobs that can make or break a model.If it's not right you're eye gets drawn to it,no matter how good the rest of the model is.You do right taking your time,slowly slowly catchy monkey is the name of the game here. Kind Regards Nigel
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Agreed Nigel, gun ports are a definite focal point of any model like this and although found it fiddly to start with I think I am now getting into the swing of it..... .. Intend taking my time not only on this task but on the whole build, rush it and I know I will regret it for as long as I look at it.... .. Just so you are aware, I have just now ordered the Amati master cutter with additional blades so will see how it is when it arrives.... thanks for the tip...... Best regards Alan
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Gandale wrote:Agreed Nigel, gun ports are a definite focal point of any model like this and although found it fiddly to start with I think I am now getting into the swing of it..... .. Intend taking my time not only on this task but on the whole build, rush it and I know I will regret it for as long as I look at it.... .. Just so you are aware, I have just now ordered the Amati master cutter with additional blades so will see how it is when it arrives.... thanks for the tip...... Best regards Alan Hi Alan You won't regret it,money well spent,great for deck planks if you rig a stop up.I am treenailing my wales on the other side this weekend and it breezes though the 0.5mm copper wire without bending the end like sidecutters tend to do. Kind Regards Nigel
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Lining of the ports is progressing nicely if not slowly... Changed to using superglue gel as even serious glue was not as effective as I liked... .. 12 ports now complete, most of the others only have one side to fit and the top row have both sides still to do.... More tomorrow.... Happy building all.. Regards Alan Gandale attached the following image(s):
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Thanks Nigel, if you are doing gunport lining next week then you have my deepest sympathy.... look forward to seeing your work though... Thanks again... Regards Alan
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Gandale wrote:Thanks Nigel, if you are doing gunport lining next week then you have my deepest sympathy.... look forward to seeing your work though... Thanks again... Regards Alan Thank you Alan,It is probably the only job I hate with a passion,I'd rather treenail,shouldn't be that bad,as I only have the one side to do.I still reckon on 2-3full days though. Kind Regards Nigel
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NMBROOK wrote:Gandale wrote:Thanks Nigel, if you are doing gunport lining next week then you have my deepest sympathy.... look forward to seeing your work though... Thanks again... Regards Alan Thank you Alan,It is probably the only job I hate with a passion,I'd rather treenail,shouldn't be that bad,as I only have the one side to do.I still reckon on 2-3full days though. Kind Regards Nigel There is where you experience shows, I'm looking at around 2 weeks at this rate....  Regards Alan
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Gandale wrote:NMBROOK wrote:Gandale wrote:Thanks Nigel, if you are doing gunport lining next week then you have my deepest sympathy.... look forward to seeing your work though... Thanks again... Regards Alan Thank you Alan,It is probably the only job I hate with a passion,I'd rather treenail,shouldn't be that bad,as I only have the one side to do.I still reckon on 2-3full days though. Kind Regards Nigel There is where you experience shows, I'm looking at around 2 weeks at this rate.... Regards Alan I suppose,but it was my experience that led me not to fit the decks inside.I know how hard it is to line them when you can only get to the outside.It is easier when you can get to both sides.From now on I try to do as much work on the hull before fitting decks.I am not sure how I am going to tackle Trinidad yet,but am a long way off starting her.I do appreciate though that the majority of builders will not deviate from the instructions and that is a good thing. Kind Regards Nigel
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NMBROOK wrote:Gandale wrote:NMBROOK wrote:Gandale wrote:Thanks Nigel, if you are doing gunport lining next week then you have my deepest sympathy.... look forward to seeing your work though... Thanks again... Regards Alan Thank you Alan,It is probably the only job I hate with a passion,I'd rather treenail,shouldn't be that bad,as I only have the one side to do.I still reckon on 2-3full days though. Kind Regards Nigel There is where you experience shows, I'm looking at around 2 weeks at this rate.... Regards Alan I suppose,but it was my experience that led me not to fit the decks inside.I know how hard it is to line them when you can only get to the outside.It is easier when you can get to both sides.From now on I try to do as much work on the hull before fitting decks.I am not sure how I am going to tackle Trinidad yet,but am a long way off starting her.I do appreciate though that the majority of builders will not deviate from the instructions and that is a good thing. Kind Regards Nigel I think Nigel every builder has to approach these builds in their own way and it really is down to the experience of the builder... I am making changes to personalise the build but mostly cosmetic..... I too have subscribed to the Trinidad and maybe I will be a little bit more adventurous with that one but like you am a long way off from starting..... Regards Alan
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Gandale wrote:NMBROOK wrote:Gandale wrote:NMBROOK wrote:Gandale wrote:Thanks Nigel, if you are doing gunport lining next week then you have my deepest sympathy.... look forward to seeing your work though... Thanks again... Regards Alan Thank you Alan,It is probably the only job I hate with a passion,I'd rather treenail,shouldn't be that bad,as I only have the one side to do.I still reckon on 2-3full days though. Kind Regards Nigel There is where you experience shows, I'm looking at around 2 weeks at this rate.... Regards Alan I suppose,but it was my experience that led me not to fit the decks inside.I know how hard it is to line them when you can only get to the outside.It is easier when you can get to both sides.From now on I try to do as much work on the hull before fitting decks.I am not sure how I am going to tackle Trinidad yet,but am a long way off starting her.I do appreciate though that the majority of builders will not deviate from the instructions and that is a good thing. Kind Regards Nigel I think Nigel every builder has to approach these builds in their own way and it really is down to the experience of the builder... I am making changes to personalise the build but mostly cosmetic..... I too have subscribed to the Trinidad and maybe I will be a little bit more adventurous with that one but like you am a long way off from starting..... Regards Alan I have hopefully some 'belters'in the melting pot for trinidad.Been talking to a professional model maker on msw.He is producing a shapeways program for 3d printing a super accurate stern complete with balconies.I am hoping this will be available to order through shapeways.I also have a sheet of red ochre stained boxwood veneer to cut the planking out of ,to replicate her at trafalgar.Bought it now as I will be using a little on my sovereign,but as for what,you will have to wait and see  Kind Regards Nigel
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NMBROOK wrote:Gandale wrote:NMBROOK wrote:Gandale wrote:NMBROOK wrote:Gandale wrote:Thanks Nigel, if you are doing gunport lining next week then you have my deepest sympathy.... look forward to seeing your work though... Thanks again... Regards Alan Thank you Alan,It is probably the only job I hate with a passion,I'd rather treenail,shouldn't be that bad,as I only have the one side to do.I still reckon on 2-3full days though. Kind Regards Nigel There is where you experience shows, I'm looking at around 2 weeks at this rate.... Regards Alan I suppose,but it was my experience that led me not to fit the decks inside.I know how hard it is to line them when you can only get to the outside.It is easier when you can get to both sides.From now on I try to do as much work on the hull before fitting decks.I am not sure how I am going to tackle Trinidad yet,but am a long way off starting her.I do appreciate though that the majority of builders will not deviate from the instructions and that is a good thing. Kind Regards Nigel I think Nigel every builder has to approach these builds in their own way and it really is down to the experience of the builder... I am making changes to personalise the build but mostly cosmetic..... I too have subscribed to the Trinidad and maybe I will be a little bit more adventurous with that one but like you am a long way off from starting..... Regards Alan I have hopefully some 'belters'in the melting pot for trinidad.Been talking to a professional model maker on msw.He is producing a shapeways program for 3d printing a super accurate stern complete with balconies.I am hoping this will be available to order through shapeways.I also have a sheet of red ochre stained boxwood veneer to cut the planking out of ,to replicate her at trafalgar.Bought it now as I will be using a little on my sovereign,but as for what,you will have to wait and see Kind Regards Nigel I wait with bated breath,,, .. All I know at this stage is I want to go down the natural wood look, no paint or stain.... Regards Alan
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lovely work alan, the work on the gun ports really brings the ship to life, looks great!  Processing - Progressing
Previous builds: HMS Victory
Current build: HMS Sovereign of the seas
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Admiral Anti Spiral wrote: Thanks Admiral, appreciate your support and very kind comments as always.... Regards Alan
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Well, happy to say I have finally finished the gun port lining on the port side and am fairly happy with the overall results... .. Can also say my Amati chopper arrived today and I used it for the very first time this evening.... can honestly say a must tool for any builder, it makes the cutting of timber and other things a real breeze... .. Huge thanks to Nigel for recommending I get one... Tomorrow will make a start on lining the ports on the starboard side, another few evenings of work yet before I can finally leave issue 40... a tedious task but needs to be done...  .. Not the best pictures, appear to be having a problem with the macro setting on the camera so will have to a look at that...  Happy building. Regards Alan Gandale attached the following image(s):
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