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Caldercraft Victory cannon rigging Options
JC
#1 Posted : 30 March 2014 17:28:50

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The instructions for rigging the 30 no 12 pounder long guns are not very detailed - all I have to go on is photo 17 of the instruction book. (JoTika page 15)

Looking through some of the build diaries for inspiration is helpful but unfortunatly I cannot see how the tackles and breaching ropes are made. I would guess the side tackles which stop the gun from recoiling are made by somehow winding the 0.1mm thread round a rod or similar. I would guess a jig is used to hold the pairs of 2mm single blocks at each end of the tackles while the thread is round around the rod.

Also it looks a bit odd the way that the thread is looped over the end of the gun barrel

Any help/photos appreciated

Julian

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Sorry if my terminology for 18th century boat building is not quite correct yet - I am slowly learing!
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Hi JC.

I've had a quick look at the relevant photo and I see what you mean about it not being very clear!
In actual fact, that cannon is pictured as it would be when tied up for storage during the long sea voyages. If you intend to model your Victory in a 'battle ready' condition you won't need to do any of that fancy 'rope spinning'.
The cannon tackle would be simple block and tackle for both the running out gear and also the running in as well (the rope at the rear of the carriage). Many modellers simply knot the blocks to the rings on the carriage but some have gone the whole hog and have a metal hook on the blocks which hooks into the same ring.
As Stevie says, the official DeAgostini instructions do show the set up very well.

Best of Luck

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#4 Posted : 31 March 2014 13:12:07

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Thanks for the info Robin/Steve

I think I will go for the running in and out using block and tackle as suggested by Steve

The trouble with the Caldercraft kit is the instructions are not very detailed. Still part of the model building experience is the chance to make the model to ones own preferences - perhaps the best way is to build it 'battle ready'. Unfortunatly I do not have access to the DeAg magazine issue 49 which apparently explains it in great detail (unless I buy the back copy!).

Having looked at the instructions posted by Steve from the magazine I think the DeAg instructions are much superior to the Caldercraft ones (still I would have expected this as this they do have to fill all 120 issues of a magazine

Thanks
Julian

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Just found this drawing - shows it all in great detail

http://www.go2gbo.com/fo...ory-and-recoil-control/

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sorry to barge in but may I ask where on the forum on the site is the info you mention about the cannons and the rigging thank you

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