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Wednesday June 10th, 2009 I spent some time to organize my next tasks about this model. I had to think about two main points:
- the new basement; I need to develop one type that will be usable until the end, stable and possibly to be held to a table when useful;
- the way to build the gun ports; I defined some solutions in the meantime, finally deciding for the choice I will describe soon, particularly different to the solution from building instructions provided by De Agostini.
Now lets discuss about the basement.
- First I planked the external side until the first plank of the lower wale. This strip is of walnut of 4x4mm size.
- Like its predecessor I used the same plywood, 8mm thickness and 10 cm wide.
- I have calculated the right position of the lower wale on the real model and with these measures in mind I have done the vertical supports, applied at the proper position.
- The section now enters perfectly in the base and the wale holds it.
- Then, on the horizontal side of the base I have installed two strips to hold inside the keel, plus two locks to avoid the keel to move forward and backward.
- Once inserted in this kind of cradle, the model doesn't move in any direction and, to extract, it is only necessary to lift it up.
Two views of the base from two different viewpoints, I apologize for the comments in italian language: 01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050677.jpg  02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050678.jpg  Next two images show the model in the "cradle" and highlight how it rests inside it just below the wale. 03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050679.jpg  04 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050679b.jpg  Kind regards, Jack..
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Thursday June 11th, 2009 With this message I want to go more in deep on explaining some pictures shown in the previous message. First of all another image of the basement that shows the model inside it with all the relevant points of support well visible and highlighted. 01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050680.jpg  And now let's show the solution selected for the gun ports. There is an internal, not visible template, of the ports made with strips of 7 x 6mm. the frames are here 7 mm. so this template fills exactly inside them. 02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050682.jpg  Outside I have installed the planks (5x2), taking care to cut the gun ports in the right place in a way to leave only a small part of wood to remove with a file. This refinement is not yet done here. 03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050681.jpg  Last I need to explain that all these pieces of wood will not be visible once the gun ports will be complete because ther is another layer of planks to install inside and outside. I coloured them in red just to make a test. My intention is to paint the Nelson's chequer (I think it is named so) in red, as it seems they were during the Trafalgar campaign. I decided to use not a red paint but a red stain over fair strips. The visible result is under your eyes: I like it very much and, although now it may seem too light, with the oil it becomes more listless. I made some test and this seems to happen every time. It is also important to use properly the glue, without leaving any of it exceeding . . 04 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050683.jpg  05 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050684.jpg  See you next time, Jack.Aubrey
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Friday June 12th, 2009 After my last message I completed the planking of the external sides upwards, with red stained lime wood. Now the entire area is planked and it is now rigid and strong. I removed the preshaped upper deck and in its place I put two strips of 6x6 fixed with the cyan glue, that is easier to remove if necessary. 01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050685.jpg  Now the first wale is complete: it is made with a total of three square walnut strips of 4x4 02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050688.jpg  03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050689.jpg  I finally experienced that the red colour is not the right colour to take perfect photos. If there is not the right light and exposure all the shadows and many of the details disappear. 04 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050690.jpg  Here below the "loft" definitely fixed in place. 05 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050691.jpg  Last two images of this sequence . . . 06 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050687-1.jpg  07 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050686-1.jpg  See you next time, Jack.Aubrey
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Wednesday June 17th, 2009 During the five days past from my last message I was able to finish the external and the internal planking at the level just above the lower gun deck. Is is not a great step from a quantitative point of view but it was for me an interesting and very practical experience as I was able to understand that this method should be the right way to proceed for the gunports opening and, later, also for the gunport lids. Again I used lime wood strips, coloured with red stain before installing them. I like the result. It is a work that requires a lot of patience, working with small pieces of wood that must be prepared in the right shape and dimension before installing them. Here a close-up view of the zone described before, from the outside . . . 01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050702.jpg  02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050704.jpg  Here, instead, it is possible to evaluate the internal side . . . 03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050703.jpg  And here below, a couple of overall views . . . 04 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050705.jpg  05 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050707.jpg  Kind regards from Jack.Aubrey
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Additional details of the gun ports, belonging to the same time of the images of my previous message. 01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050711.jpg  02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050712.jpg  03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050714.jpg  04 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050708.jpg  05 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050709.jpg  That's all for now, I spent a couple of days at the computer to work on some plans for another model I think to start as soon as this cross section will be finished. Cheers. Jack.Aubrey
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Looking good Jack. Building: DelPrado HMS Victory. Building: DeAgostini Sovereign Of The Seas.
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Saturday June 27th Ten days are now past since my previous message showing the progresses made on this cross section. Now De Agostini's instructions suggest to continue with the installation of the middle gun deck, and so on. But in this way it becomes evident that it will be very difficult to install later the guns. More specifically this approch makes totally impossible to install fully rigged guns as it is in my mind !!! For this reason I decided to start a new task, not difficult to achieve but time consuming and boring: the installation of the 36 pounders guns in number of four. The simplest task was to paint che gun barrells with a gun metal enamel. In fact these guns, on the real ship, were iron cast, not brass. Then I painted the trucks in red with the wheels in brown. I modified the trucks to install the ringbolts for the blocks. The boring task was to prepare the single pieces to rig the whole. I use the smallest block available on the market (2mm, one way) joint to a ringbolt that will be fixed on the truck or on the deck and the internal sides of the hull. To correctly mount four guns you need 24 of these objects: each gun uses six of them, 3 on the truck and 3 on the deck and the bulwark. Here below you can see the four 36pdr guns, ready to be fixed in place on the lower gun deck. Unfortunately the trucks are metal cast and I don't like them too much. I thought to change them with the same but made with wood but I decided to postpone this idea to the guns that will be fully visible, and this will happen only on the last deck. 01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050715B.jpg  02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050716B.jpg  03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050717.jpg  Here below a test to see the guns positioned in place, just to see the visual effect. The work is still continuing, not too fast anyway. 04 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050718.jpg  05 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050720.jpg  Cheers. Jack.Aubrey
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Saturday July 4th, 2009 Today I started the installation of the four guns on the lower gun deck. At the end of the session I was able to install, partially, only two of them, The following three images show the work done. It's a task thar requires a lot of patience and time. They are close to be finished, the only element still missing is the recoil rope. It is not a big job but I need some time to relax myself before next session . . Cheers, Jack.Aubrey 01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050728C.jpg  02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050729C.jpg  03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050730C.jpg 
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Jack A stunning piece of work. I really do like your use of stains rather than paint as that red looks just perfect. Happy modelling Tony Happy Modelling
BUILDING: Hachette Spitfire Mk 1A, Constructo Mayflower
SUBSCRIPTION COMPLETE (Awaiting building): USS Constitution, Sovereign of the Seas, 1:200 Bismarck (Hachette)
COMPLETED: Porsche 911, E-Type Jaguar, Lam Countach
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Wednesday July 8th, 2009 I finished the installation of the four guns, this afternoon I want to continue with some other minor pieces to install on this deck, such as stairs and pillars, and to place the beams of the intermediate gun deck. 01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050731B.jpg  02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050732B.jpg  03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050733B.jpg  04 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050735B.jpg  05 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050736B.jpg  See you as soon as I will have new thing to show. Jack.Aubrey
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birdaj2 wrote:Jack
I really do like your use of stains rather than paint as that red looks just perfect.
Tony Hi tony, the stain was more or less an experiment but soon demonstrated to be a good idea. I have finally adopted this kind of process also for other models instead of paint . . Rgds, Jack.
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Friday July 10th, 2009 Now that the guns are over, I could restart with the next deck. Here below the two elements of this deck ready to be installed. The image shows the upper and the lower side together, in particular, for the lower side i repeated the "admiralty style" trick. These elements are soaked with oil for wood. 01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050737.jpg  The next image shows what should become the final base for this model. Onestly I don't like it at all and, at the right time, I will have the problem to "invent" a display case for this model in order to keep it far from dust and other dangers. 02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050738.jpg  Before installing the new deck I need to complete something on the lower deck, such as installing the pillars and a stairs . . 03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050739.jpg  04 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050740.jpg  This is the last opportunity to look at the guns of the lower deck. When I will install the intermediate deck, it will be more difficult to see them as now . . someone can at this point ask to himself: why this huge work if you can see only a few part of it ? But the importanti thing for a ship modeler's mind is not to see it but to know that it is there . . 05 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050741B.jpg  Now I think it is time for summer holidays and I will forget ship modelling for at least two/three weeks. The shipyard will reopen in August (keep in mind that I'm describing something happened 4 years ago, so take care of the date at the bebinning of the message). Cheers, Jack.
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Monday August 17th, 2009 I was back from holidays in the first days of August, but there was a very hot weather and it was very difficult to find the will to work. Only in these last three/four days the weather cooled down, in particular during the early hours of the morning, before breakfast, when I decided to restart the shipyard. So i repeated the similar tasks I made on the lower deck also for this intermediate deck, starting with the structure of the gun ports, painting the guns and the trucks, installing other simple elements and planking the outside bulwarks. 01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050856.jpg  After I worked inside the hull, preparing the structure for the internal planking . . 02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050854.jpg  and after the necessary refinements I completed one half of the internal bulwarks, applying red coloured strips 5x2 03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050857.jpg  I'm still in the process to finish the internal sides, copleted only on the right . . here a whole viewpoint image . . 04 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050851.jpg  Additional images will follow, cheers, Jack.Aubrey
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Friday August 21st, 2009 Here follow four new images of the model. Since last Monday I didn't work on the model because the weather is really impossible. I don't have at home an air-conditioner (my women, wife and daughters, didn't want to install it in 2004, to avoid to pollute) so I found relief going to supermarkets and shopping centers . . where the air conditioning is free, you can eat at low cost, you can make shopping and see people, nice or ugly, . . that probably had my same idea to stay fresh . . Here below her majesty Reàl Armada Navio "Nuestra Senora De La Santìsima Trinidad": 01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050852.jpg  02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050853.jpg  03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050855.jpg  04 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050858.jpg  See you soon. Jack.Aubrey
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Jack Another lovely update on your build. Very tempted with a kit such as this myself as it would take up less space and beceasiervto display. Happy modelling Tony Happy Modelling
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Thurday September 3rd, 2009 The weather is finally less warm and it is now possible to restart working around the cross section. Here below the main achievements: a) stairway to connect the lower deck to the intermediate deck. Nothing particularly difficult but I installed it in a reversed order, so the steps are not well right aligned . . 01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050866.jpg  Beams and pillars of the upper gun deck ready to be installed. In the image these elements are only positioned just to take photos but they are not fixed. Before doing so I have to install the four guns of the intermediate deck. 02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050868.jpg  Long 24 pdr guns: I have prepared two of them . . here I have planned two tackles instead of one to pull back the gun. I have used barrells and trucks as supplied with the kit. I painted the barrels and the trucks and i bored the truck to install the four blocks for the tackles. 03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad%20640/P1050871.jpg  04 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad%20640/P1050870.jpg  See you next time, Jack.Aubrey.
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Thursday September 4th, 2009 Here are five new images of my cross section model. I continued my work around the remaining guns for this deck and I began to plank the two elements that will become the upper gun deck. They are not immediately usable now, but only after I will have installed the 24pdr guns and finished the intermediate deck. 01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050872.jpg  02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050873.jpg  03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050867.jpg  04 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050869.jpg  05 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050874.jpg  Cheers. Jack.Aubrey
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Wednesday September 9th, 2009 I have now finished the upper gun deck, with planks above and beams below and now I cannot pospone the installation of the four 24pdr guns before any other task. But I am not much eager to start this task . . so I decided to try a customization not planned within the kit: the copper plating of the quickwork. I made some test on a piece of unusable wood (it was a mistake while planking a deck) I used for this test the cyan-acrilate glue both in the liquid version and in the gel version. The gel demonstrated better usable, but it is more expensive. I will retain the material from this test to experiment a couple of ageing tecniques suggested me by some people. 01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050912.jpg  Then, having decided to proceed with copper plating, I bought the coppers plates (+/- 360) required in a modelling shop and started to work on the model. I found plates that have a dimension that should reasonably match the scale of this cross section (1:90). Here below some images of the plates applied on the hull. The work is relatively easy and relaxing. The exceeding part of the plates can be detached the day after with scissors and refined with a sanding block. It is important to apply the right quantity of glue, the exceeding one must be removed as soon as possible and as well as possible otherwise may interfere with the ageing procedure. The whole task is very repetitive but relaxing, with the help of some good music in the background . . this at least for a cross section, copper plating an entire hull should be surely another thing. 02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050913.jpg  03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050914.jpg  04 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050915.jpg  05 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050916.jpg  See you soon, Jack.Aubrey
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Monday September 14th, 2009 I spent the weekend to work as a tiler ! Here below the quickwork with the all the copper plates applied. I wrote "all" also if honestly the plates around the keel are missing. But I cannot install them now. The price to pay is a new basement, I imagine you can easily understand why, and I don't want to build another basement now. I prefer to wait until the right moment, so I have stored the remaining plates to finish later to cover the keel. 01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050917.jpg  02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050918.jpg  03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050919.jpg  04 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050920.jpg  05 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050921.jpg  And now I cannot walk around my destiny, now I have to take care of the four guns. I have also decided to leave the copper as it is, without trying any ageing technique for now, just to see what happens with a natural oxidation, I can wait and see without problems for a couple of months or more. Cheers. Jack.Aubrey.
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Very nice Jack. Paul Building: DelPrado HMS Victory. Building: DeAgostini Sovereign Of The Seas.
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