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It's not exactly a car, and has only 2 hp while running on hay, but I think this is the best fitting forum for this baby. Ever since I saw a photo of this model in some online shop I knew I'd like to build it. And probably I was talking a bit too much about it, because my SO told me to go for it (not sure what the loud sigh afterwards meant.) So, I got the kit and I will be building it in between my partworks. It seems to be a very demanding model - there's a lot of scratch building from provided raw materials, some quite precise woodworking to do, and a lot of potential to spoil the work with glue. This is how it should look built - time will tell how close I will get to that picture. Slow and careful, measure twice cut once, etc. - I guess this is the way.  The build starts with the wheels. Probably to keep novice builders sane, they are each made from four laser-cut sections that need to be glued together. The spokes are made from ø4 sapelli rods that are to be cut to size (60mm for the large wheels and 48mm for the small wheels), and then sanded on two sides so that they are flat. There are 12 spokes for each wheel, so you can probably imagine it's a lot of sanding. So, a power tool in the form of a Dremel had to be employed.    Last thing I did today was building a spoking jig. The frame is made from balsa stripwood I had laying around, and the bottom from a thin ply. In the middle I layered some duct tape so that the hub is properly elevated to match the position of the wheel rim. The spokes are not as wide as the wheel rim, so I layered some more duct tape on the sides of the jig. This way the spokes will fit exactly where they should without much repositioning. The last picture shows four of the 12 spokes dry-fitted.     That's it for today. Happy modelling! Any images I post on my personal builds are free to be used and shared under Creative Commons Attribution license, which means you can do what you want with them, on the condition you mention I'm the author.
Happy building :-) http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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This looks interesting  Like to see how this turns out, Good luck with it. Steve
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Nice kit, I think Kev started one of these a while back , he may have some tips for you  Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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This one has certainly pricked my interest, will be watching to see how you get on with it.... Good luck with the build.... Regards Alan
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Good to see something different being tackled
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Thank you everyone for your encouraging comments. This model will definitely challenge my skills and will require a lot of resourcefulness. But that's an important part of the fun, isn't it? :) Any images I post on my personal builds are free to be used and shared under Creative Commons Attribution license, which means you can do what you want with them, on the condition you mention I'm the author.
Happy building :-) http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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This is certainly something different, I think it will look really cool when finished.
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Looks like a nice model Michu, what scale is it?
Andy is right, I did start a 'Wells Fargo' Stagecoach build on here a few years ago when I was under my old 'SennaMentalMe' username, though mine was the 1:10 scale 'Amati' kit:
http://www.historicships...AM171101/Stagecoach.htm
If you want some good reference photos, I was using this site:
http://westernstagecoaches.com/
The guy builds full-size replicas in Cochise County, Arizona (great place name). If you look to the right of the header on that site you will see a link to the photos in a sub-menu. Hope that helps?
I do intend to continue that build at some point but I have too many on the go at the moment?
Kev
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Hi Kev, Thanks for the pointers to that site, it will be helpful indeed. Mine is also 1:10 but as you can see from the pictures, it looks a bit different. I might have another update tomorrow Any images I post on my personal builds are free to be used and shared under Creative Commons Attribution license, which means you can do what you want with them, on the condition you mention I'm the author.
Happy building :-) http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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My stagecoach is progressing slowly due to lack of time, but still the build is moving forward. The wheels proved to be very challenging, if not for the skills needed, then through the amount of work they needed. Let me count: 4 wheels, times 12 spokes, is 48 spokes. Not easy to install while keeping the hubs centered. At first I opted for a snug fit, which ended with a literal explosion of one of the wheels - the combined tension, around 9th or 10th spoke, caused the wheel to return almost to its original form - two quarters and a half of the wheel sprung in all directions. It took me good 15 minutes to find them all under kitchen cupboards. So on the next try I sanded them a bit for a more loose fit, and carefuly glued them in. Then everything needs to be painted yellow (a colour that has almost no opacity, but finally managed to cover the wheels with the help of Vallejo model paints, they cover very nicely) - but the insides of the spokes should stay not covered. So, after painting, I had 48 spokes to sand on both sides - 96 sides total.    A rim had to be glued in at this point - this part proved to be quite easy, done with generous application of superglue.  The next step, which I left for later because I HAD ENOUGH OF THE DAMN WHEELS, will be to drill two small holes next to each spoke - 48 spokes times 2 holes is 96 holes - and then insert a small nail into each of the holes. From both sides. After cutting all the nails in half. 192 nails, cut in half, painted black, and placed into the wheel rim. Yep, I'll leave this for some other time. The next part, undercarriage, required removing many wooden elements from frets (or cutting/shaping them raw material), sanding, painting, etc. Some of them required cutting small clefts along one or two sides - the process can be seen below:   Painted yellow:   And some of them glued together:   Any proper wooden undercarriage requires some metal braces. Part of the braces were provided as photoetch, but some required cutting and bending raw brass strips. All required to be painted black:  I will install them soon and the undercarriage will start to take shape. Meanwhile I wanted to make something more substantial, so I skipped 10 pages or maybe 15, and started working on the body of the stagecoach. This was a very pleasant activity, involving clamps, glue, hot water to remove glue, clamps, another glue, hot water again, and finally a third glue that managed to grab the walls and keep them curved according to the shape of the false floor. Loved every moment of it.     Then, the walls. Superglue rocks:     And finally... excess parts of the walls cut away and sanded:   So, that's it for today. Happy modelling and thanks for dropping by :) Any images I post on my personal builds are free to be used and shared under Creative Commons Attribution license, which means you can do what you want with them, on the condition you mention I'm the author.
Happy building :-) http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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Great start and good to see something out of the ordinary come together
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Interesting build and good progress I'll be watching this one. Steve
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Nicely done Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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This is looking really nice, I was looking forward to seeing you start this one altough by the sounds of it those wheels really tested your patience  Great work
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Excellent work Michu, look superb.... Some really challenging build techniques to master here, ones I may add you are mastering..... .. Look forward to your next update.... Regards Alan
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Hi looks an interesting kit, your off to great start, looking great.will follow this one with interest.cheers mick Builds hms victory, suzuki gsx 1300 R hayabusa, honda C B 750, lamborghini countach L P 500 S, tamiya 1/16 rc full option tiger 1 tank,
built, Mclaren M P 4 - 23. Occre london tram,
Stash.airfix 1/24 mosquito. Diag Virginia schooner, tamiya 1/6 honda 750, tamiya 1/35 famo, tamiya 1/35 flak 88.
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Don't know how I have mist this but i have. quite fancy this kit or something similar myself good to see how it goes together. doing an excellent job, great build Jase “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
-Mark Twain
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Just a very small update today. 96 holes have been drilled in the wheels, then a nail has been test-fitted and then 96 holes have been re-drilled with a thicker bit. BTW, even if the spoke looks a bit wavy on the image below, it's invisible with a naked eye.  Then 192 nails have been put into a balsa strip and painted black (yes, I counted):   And that's enough for today... Good night. I'll probably dream about painting nails... well, that didn't sound right. Happy modelling! Any images I post on my personal builds are free to be used and shared under Creative Commons Attribution license, which means you can do what you want with them, on the condition you mention I'm the author.
Happy building :-) http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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Hope you enjoyed dreaming about nails  It will look very nice once all the nails have been put in the wheels
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davetwin wrote:It will look very nice once all the nails have been put in the wheels I will have to cut them all in half first. It will be a... meditative kind of work. Like a Buddhist monk making a mandala out of sand. Just with nails instead of sand. And wheels instead of mandala. But hey, they're round too, right? Any images I post on my personal builds are free to be used and shared under Creative Commons Attribution license, which means you can do what you want with them, on the condition you mention I'm the author.
Happy building :-) http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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