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So pleased to see this kit has been rescued and delivered to someone who can do it justice. I know you'll do a great job, look forward to seeing the restoration bring her back to her true self.....  .. Good luck, will be following all the way.... Regards Alan
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Gandale wrote:So pleased to see this kit has been rescued and delivered to someone who can do it justice. I know you'll do a great job, look forward to seeing the restoration bring her back to her true self..... .. Good luck, will be following all the way.... Regards Alan Thanks for the vote of confidence Alan, i'm certainly going to give it my best shot. Building: DelPrado HMS Victory. Building: DeAgostini Sovereign Of The Seas.
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Here is the rest of it, and it all came apart very easily, some of the ribs that i thought were glued in were actually just jammed into the slots and not all of the way.  Gibbo attached the following image(s): Building: DelPrado HMS Victory. Building: DeAgostini Sovereign Of The Seas.
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After going through all of the ribs there were four of them with either cracked or broken ribs so i decided to set about repairing them rather than replacing as replacing would have cost have around £21.00 spread over three mags, using the opposite rib as a template they were sandwiched in between lengths of planking on either side, both sides of rib 18 were broken so we're going to have to guesstimate that one, if that doesn't work it will have to be replaced. Gibbo attached the following image(s): Building: DelPrado HMS Victory. Building: DeAgostini Sovereign Of The Seas.
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Hi Gibbo, can't really see any reason why your idea shouldn't work but you will have to be careful pinning the planks to the weakened ribs... Only other potential problem you may have later will be with the gun ports but that can be easily resolved.... .. Great to see you managed to dismantle the mess and start again.... .. Will be watching... Regards Alan
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Hi gibbo,  Looks like a good start to the recovery. WTG Regards delboy271155 (Derek ) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Gandale wrote:Hi Gibbo, can't really see any reason why your idea shouldn't work but you will have to be careful pinning the planks to the weakened ribs... Only other potential problem you may have later will be with the gun ports but that can be easily resolved.... .. Great to see you managed to dismantle the mess and start again.... .. Will be watching... Regards Alan Hi Alan They're pretty solid now actually, i think once the decks are on and it is planked the Dremmel inside the gun ports will take care of that Regards Paul Building: DelPrado HMS Victory. Building: DeAgostini Sovereign Of The Seas.
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delboy271155 wrote:Hi gibbo, Looks like a good start to the recovery. WTG Regards delboy271155 (Derek ) Thanks Derek Building: DelPrado HMS Victory. Building: DeAgostini Sovereign Of The Seas.
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I reckon these ribs will be fine once the dummy gun supports and decks are fitted,probably end up stronger than the others. Man he took his time in the sun Had a dream to understand A single grain of sand He gave birth to poetry But one day will cease to be Greet the last light of the library...We were here!
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Those frames should be fine but as Alan says, you will have to be careful pushing the pins in when planking. You could always invest in some screw in planking clamps which can be used without putting as much pressure on the repaired frames - http://www.micromark.com...ing-clamp-set,6454.html
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Hi Paul. Nice to see you have managed to strip her back to a clean start. look forward to seeing your progress Ian. Current builds.Hachettes build the bismark,HMS Victory, HMS Hood.
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stevie_o wrote:Those frames should be fine but as Alan says, you will have to be careful pushing the pins in when planking. You could always invest in some screw in planking clamps which can be used without putting as much pressure on the repaired frames - http://www.micromark.com...ing-clamp-set,6454.html
Steve Thanks for the link Steve, they look good. Building: DelPrado HMS Victory. Building: DeAgostini Sovereign Of The Seas.
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Well done on striping the old planking . I snaped a rib on the SotS and fixed it with pins held ok Rgd Martyn Building ?
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Excellant work getting it all apart and nice to see that it can all pretty much be saved, now looking forward to seeing you put it all back together
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Hi Gibbo...Good to see the salvage work that you are doing...I found, that with a weak rib, using a very small G-clamp to hold the planking in place and holding a metal heavy object (in my case it was an old club hammer head) behind the weak rib while pushing the pins in worked every time for me...As the planking progressed upward it strengthened the broken ribs...Anyway...Good luck with it, look forward to see the restoration....  Current Builds: Deagostini HMS Victory: Deagostini HMS Sovereign of the seas. Completed Builds: Del Prado: HMAS Bounty: Hachette: RMS Titanic: Del Prado: Cutty Sark...
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Well i know i said i was going to build this in conjunction with my SOTS but i just couldn't contain myself, so i'm now building it in conjunction with my DelPrado Vic, so after stripping down and cleaning up i put together a build jig and glued the false keel and all the ribs back together, laid the first deck and fitted the dummy gun ports, what stands out for me is the ribs on my DelPrado are a lot thicker than on the DeAg so i'm going to have to be a lot more precise when i come to do the planking. Gibbo attached the following image(s): Building: DelPrado HMS Victory. Building: DeAgostini Sovereign Of The Seas.
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For the second deck i have decided not to use the deck beams but instead glue the deck straight onto the supports on the ribs and then using Balsa Wood to create supports for the middle of the decks, i'm doing this because i dont like the idea of pencilling in the planks, the deck beams are 1.5mm and the deck is 2mm, my theory is using the 2mm decks onto the supports and then planking the deck with 1.5mm material making 3.5mm so the level of the deck does not change, i am planning to do this with all of the decks, i have used the second deck as a template for the quarterdeck so hopefully with a bit of re-working i can make it fit, if anybody can see a flaw in this plan which will affect what happens further on in the build can you please let me know, the only thing i can think of is the height of the cabins under the poop deck, i would very much appreciate any thoughts on this. Cheers Paul Gibbo attached the following image(s): Building: DelPrado HMS Victory. Building: DeAgostini Sovereign Of The Seas.
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Wit the second deck fitted and weighed down the Victory temporarily has become a Freighter. Gibbo attached the following image(s): Building: DelPrado HMS Victory. Building: DeAgostini Sovereign Of The Seas.
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looking great and you look like your enjoying this build Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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arpurchase wrote: looking great and you look like your enjoying this build I am thanks Andy, nice to work on something that's bigger than 1/100 scale. Cheers Paul Building: DelPrado HMS Victory. Building: DeAgostini Sovereign Of The Seas.
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