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Hello shipmates, I know that most of you have finished there launches but I am still working on mine. There are quite a lot of post on the launch build but most do not answer my question. I am going for some changes on the build like in Maggies and Willz build diaries, but what confuses me is the way the inner floor (don't know the exact nautical therm in english but I hope you get what I mean) of the launch look like. The bottom of the launch is divided in three sections. The magazine suggest to build the center part out of wood and the ones at stern and bow out of the brass parts which came with issue #9. On this image  the floor looks rather solid wooden to me. Can anybody, who has seen the real thing confirm this? If so, wouldn't is make more sense to use entirely wooden planks instead of these metal-grating-thingies? Timm My build diary hereCurrent Build:HMS Victory
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Hi mate. I'v gone for the full wood look. I glued the planks to the suplied grating to hold it in place & it works great.
Bob
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hi mate,you have many choices here,if you look at my mystery boat in blue writing beside my pic and my upgraded launch you can see what I did,the mystery boat is in fact a large scale version of the launch,where you can see the detail better.hope it helps you make up your mind.sorry did'nt notice that I'v changed it to:-sergels victory launch. Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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The picture above shows the windlass and thwarts painted black and yet the build painting guide says these should be white. Can anyone assist in which is the correct colour scheme.
Cheers
Kev
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Determining exactly what was in 1805 is not as straight forward as it might seem, the launch in the photo is how it currently looks which may not necessarily be how it was painted in 1805 though its likely to be as close as your going to get.
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KevinWalsh wrote:The picture above shows the windlass and thwarts painted black and yet the build painting guide says these should be white. Can anyone assist in which is the correct colour scheme.
Cheers
Kev The windlass and thwarts are actually a dark varnish rather than black and are according to the colour scheme on the official Victory website Victory Colour Scheme.In practice the ship's boats during that period were often re-painted using whatever colour scheme a particular Captain favoured, or as was probably the case with Hardy and his Admiral they would have used what was available from Admiralty stores, neither being particularly rich. As Tomick says, it would be particularly difficult to know what the Trafalgar colours might have been, the above picture is as good a guess as any. Mike T
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Thought I'd check out a few things before I carried on with launch. Man, talk about confusing. I must say I like the colour scheme in the pics, but I want to be as authentic as possible.
Just out of interest it interesting to see that ochre or 'peach' colour was used on the funnels of the Cunnard Line ships, ie The Titanic.
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errrrrrr sindbad you are confused, titanic was white star line. Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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karl1113 wrote:errrrrrr sindbad you are confused, titanic was white star line. Indeed Karl Cunard did and still do use red I think Cunard did buy the White Star line eventually “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
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jase wrote:karl1113 wrote:errrrrrr sindbad you are confused, titanic was white star line. Indeed Karl Cunard did and still do use red I think Cunard did buy the White Star line eventually Thanks for that Karl.  I'd hate to think that James Cameron and I got it wrong !  Just an observation on the launch colours. I noticed that the thwarts etc are the same colour as the canons, which is a 'Gun Metal' grey. Look at the black band around the launch to compare.
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Sinbad wrote:jase wrote:karl1113 wrote:errrrrrr sindbad you are confused, titanic was white star line. Indeed Karl Cunard did and still do use red I think Cunard did buy the White Star line eventually Thanks for that Karl. I'd hate to think that James Cameron and I got it wrong ! Just an observation on the launch colours. I noticed that the thwarts etc are the same colour as the canons, which is a 'Gun Metal' grey. Look at the black band around the launch to compare. Nope they are black. A combination of light position and the outer hull being gloss gives you the appearance of grey. I know this for a fact as I have been there. PS Cameron had yellow funnels on his Titanic as they should be. Jase “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
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Thanks for that info Jase. You're right, photos can be deceiving. I remember when I was building a model of Star Trek's Enterprise every pic I looked at was a different shade of grey.
I envy you're having seen the Victory.
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Sinbad wrote:Thanks for that info Jase. You're right, photos can be deceiving. I remember when I was building a model of Star Trek's Enterprise every pic I looked at was a different shade of grey.
I envy you're having seen the Victory. I have 15 packs of photos you can download for free if you want them, include some rear shots of the poop deck where public is not usually allowed - luckily I got chatting to a guide who made models PM me if you want them. Jase “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
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