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Hi everyone.
First off, I've decided not to walk the plank because of the missing part 31. SPoke to them, they said they WILL MAKE SURE it is in the new issue 14 and send it for free. Lets just hope it's all good.
Now, my real question. I am doing a side build of the Swift 1805, and finished the Viking so far. Those two I left and am leaving on the natural finish with just a few coats of Clear paint. The nails are a bit of a beggar though. I'm going to have to use the pilot holes idea with a mini hammer. But the backs of the nails on the ship do look a bit prominent. My stupid question, do you guys all snip of the back part and just push/hammer it in the rest of the way? Would that in any way weaken that point slightly (or not, because I'm using super glue as well as the pins)?
Second question. The PVA glue will obviously not last for the whole ship. I'm using normal modeling superglue on the others, and if it spills over, it does make a stain. What is a good wood glue to use that won't damage the wood, and where in Cape Town can I get it?
Regards,
Francois
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Hi Gan_Javi
I don't think there is must difference between the wood glues which are available from any DIY or hardware outlet. I am using Alcolin.
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The best glue to use is Aliphatic Resin if you can find it over there,it is stronger than pva & can be sanded better. Rob Nolli Illigitimi Carborundum!!!Current Builds: HMS Victory, SV Thermopylae
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just a bit of info here,I was building another boat,using aliphatic resin,when deep into the build I discovered that the frames were not in the correct order,panic,thought about sanding and packing to get them right,then a thought hit me,could I soak them in water and remove?so tried it,and behold it worked,I'd heard that you can do that with pva as well,I was amazed at how easy that they would come apart.I used hot water and every part came apart so easily,I just started again,the old glue just wiped off all the pieces.If you intend to sail the boat,DON'T use pva or aliphic glue. Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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The wood glue/cold glue which I mentioned in my previous post is in liquid form and is not waterproof it softens when soaked in water. I also use it to glue sand paper onto blocks and when the sand paper needs changing I soak the blocks in water and the sand paper peels off ready for the next piece of sand paper.
Gemken make a waterproof cold wood glue (Cascamite) which is sold in powder form and mixed with water.
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Hi Francios, Any PVA glue will do. I am also using Alcolin. As a suggestion, buy the small bottle with the long spout first and later the large bottle to refill it when required. Regards, Garth "Measure twice, cut once!!!"
Finished!!! HMS Victory,
Current build: Black Pearl.
On hold: Bismarck, Golden Hind, Flying Scotsman, Victory Cross Section, SOTS, Tiger 1.
Wish list: USS Constitution.
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Barryn de Maine.
I am busy with HMS Victoria at this time & about to put in the lower gun deck. I find i have no pins except
the standard sewing variety, can anyone point me in the right direction as where to buy & what size, I live in Swaziland so it has to be on the net as I don't get away much.... a thought, how about the standard variety?? &
trim them down any pitfalls
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barry@realnet.co.sz wrote:Barryn de Maine.
I am busy with HMS Victoria at this time & about to put in the lower gun deck. I find i have no pins except
the standard sewing variety, can anyone point me in the right direction as where to buy & what size, I live in Swaziland so it has to be on the net as I don't get away much.... a thought, how about the standard variety?? &
trim them down any pitfalls the stander sewing can be used cut down to ten mm ,did you not get pins with the mag the pins can be bought from most model shops on the net that do wooden boats here in britian try WWW.CORNWALL MODEL BOATS.co.uk 10mmlongx0.7mm dia, best when fitting the pins drill a hole the same size also if cutting the standard cut at an angle easer than a blunt end to push in or fit them and cut off the head
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Francoise Mantua do an excellent PVA glue it's fast drying and grabs well. I assume there must be a South African equivalent of Cornwall Model Boats which you can access on-line. I use it and Aliphatic glue, I mainly use Aliphatic for the bits I don't want to be seen as I've found that it dries with a slight yellowness. Come on you Jimmies
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Guys you all use very expensive wood glues that are just pva!!!!
Amongst other things I have my own Joinery business, so hence I use the Evostick Waterproof Wood Glue that I use on the work I do professionally on my model. If it can hold together furniture etc - then it can hold together a small boat.
It's seriously good yet its a fraction of the price you all pay for the glues from model shops.
I pay about £7 for a litre of it, then just fill up my small pot that deagostini gave me to make it easier to use on the model. I get it at that price trade, yet if you go to a normal DIY store such as the dreaded B&Q it's about £10. That's still a fraction of the price of model shops!!!!
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