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gingerale75
#1 Posted : 20 December 2017 14:49:36

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Ahoy Shipmates,

It's me again, who get lost in every tiny details. LOL

Within the next few days I will reach the point where I need to rigging the fore mast.
Looking ahead in the magazine for the related tasks I noticed that the pictures are showing two different ways how the 4 mm rigging blocks are tied to the topgallant masts and to the yards.
However, the text in the magazine doesn't mention two different method, it just keeps referring back to the main mast/yard instructions (this was done first in the row).

See screenshots from the magazine below.
For each block...
- Main topgallant mast --> There is one loop around the pole (Issue 64)
- Main mast main yard --> There is one loop around the yard (Issue 65)
- Fore topgallant mast --> Two loops (Issue 70)
- Fore mast main yard --> Mixed, one loop for the inner 4 blocks, two loops for the outer 3 blocks (Issue 71)
- Main and Fore topmast yards --> Two loops (Issue 72)
- Main and Fore topgallant yards --> Two loops (Issue 73)
- Mizzen main (cross jack) yard --> Two loops (Issue 80)
- Mizzen topmast and topgallant yards --> Two loops (Issue 81)
- Mizzen topgallant mast --> Two loops (Issue 82)

The only place where it mentioned looping twice is one of the booms (Issue 81).

Similar to my previous topic (same thread for same application) I prefer the same method across the masts/yards what I started/finished on the main mast (one loop per block), unless the mixed number of loops actually exist on the real ship, and it's not a mistake on the prototype build for the magazine pictures.

I apology if you'll find my questions silly or too picky.
Looking forward to hear your advise/opinion or maybe facts.
gingerale75 attached the following image(s):
Main Topgallant Mast.jpg
Main Mast Main Yard.jpg
Fore Topgallant Mast.jpg
Fore Mast Main Yard.jpg
Main & Fore Topmast Yards.jpg
Main and Fore Topgallant Yards.jpg
Mizzen Main (Cross Jack) Yard.jpg
Mizzen Topmast and Topgallant Yards.jpg
Mizzen Topgallant Mast.jpg
Boom.jpg
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#2 Posted : 21 December 2017 01:33:31

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I'll see if I can find anything on this in some of the reference material I have but can say that not all the rigging was uniform across a period ship, even each yard could have been different. I would again follow the official build, it is the best representation of how she was at that time.

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Alan
Martyn Ingram
#3 Posted : 21 December 2017 08:37:40

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BigGrin Hi Laszlo as Alan said blocks where fitted in different ways depending on how much they were lifting or supporting Cool One of the best books to show how different blocks work is Rigging Period Ships by Petersson , brilliant book

Hope this helps
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#4 Posted : 21 December 2017 11:30:30

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There are a number if HMS Victory reference books posted in a 'Ship Books' section of the forum along a few book suggestions on period ship rigging..
http://forum.model-space...aspx?g=posts&t=7489
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#5 Posted : 22 January 2018 17:17:37

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I am no expert, am new to the site (but have been model building for about 55 years) and have come across this in many ways. Period furniture for instance. There were actually very few hard and fast standards until WW II and mass production were really in place. So almost anything fabricated in the world depended upon not only the materials available, but the workman doing it, the foreman (both mood and condition), frankly the day of the week, was it morning or night? Were they rushed for that one last line, yard, board, etc. Was it repaired a week later if something had to be changed? It's more in keeping to have things slightly different than all exactly the same.
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