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Issue 66, drawing the waterline Options
gingerale75
#1 Posted : 24 February 2018 13:33:28

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Ahoy Shipmates,

As you might see on my build diary I finished all the masts and yards from issue 62 to 82, and now I'm returning to complete the skipped tasks.
The next to come is in issue 66, drawing the waterline.

At this point I faced a problem. I placed the hull in its cradle under frame 18 & 23 and checked the level side-to-side (placing a spirit level across the decks/bulwarks), luckily it's in level (<0.5 degrees) without any adjustment required.
However when I measured the lowest point of the lower whales I found a 2 mm difference between the port and starboard side (110 & 112 mm from the table top). I'm not sure where is it coming from, but I think it doesn't matter now.

Obviously it's not possible to remove and reposition the whales without seriously damaging the hull, so I dropped this idea immediately.

For drawing the waterline if I would use the same instruction (3mm above the lowest point) on both sides then the waterline wouldn't meet and the bow and stern. This would look ugly hence this idea also dropped.

Other option I see that I use the middle (111 + 3 = 114 mm) to draw the waterline, but in this case the two sides would look slightly different regarding where the black/yellow "stripes" are running relative to whales/gunports.

Third option is that I use different waterline level for the two sides (113 & 115) at the middle of the hull and bring the two lines together at the bow/stern by "bending" the waterline up/down to ensure they meet.

Did any of you face with this problem before and how did you get over it?
Happy building!
Laszlo

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Hi Laszlo,

Looking at the options you've outlined I would go for your last option, simply because you are only talking about a 1mm adjustment on both sides, plus both sides would look evenly balanced. In my opinion, unless the viewer has an in depth knowledge of the ship then its unlikely a 1mm variance will be noticed. Also consider, when you come to display the final model it is more than probable the viewer will only see one side anyway, unless your model is going to be displayed in such a way as to be able to walk around it. The matching of the waterline on both sides at the bow and the stern will likely be seen so it's important that this is as good as it can be. Hope this helps in derterming your way forward....Cool Cool

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#3 Posted : 25 February 2018 09:24:42

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Gandale wrote:
Hi Laszlo,

Looking at the options you've outlined I would go for your last option, simply because you are only talking about a 1mm adjustment on both sides, plus both sides would look evenly balanced. In my opinion, unless the viewer has an in depth knowledge of the ship then its unlikely a 1mm variance will be noticed. Also consider, when you come to display the final model it is more than probable the viewer will only see one side anyway, unless your model is going to be displayed in such a way as to be able to walk around it. The matching of the waterline on both sides at the bow and the stern will likely be seen so it's important that this is as good as it can be. Hope this helps in derterming your way forward....Cool Cool

Regards

Alan


Hi Alan,

Thanks for yor advise, I had the same opinion. The ship will be hanged from the ceiling in a glass cabinet above the staircase hence the viewer will see only the right hand side of the ship, the bow and partially the stern.

Happy building!
Laszlo

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#4 Posted : 07 April 2019 00:37:09

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Hi laszlo,

It’s a long shot but I’m trying to find someone who has finished with their main mast plan, my issue was missing the booklet. I noticed you had passed that point, would you be willing to sell? Or send so I can photocopy and return to you.. cheers Ricky
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#5 Posted : 07 April 2019 15:24:36

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I am running into the same problem. I am ready to install the middle and lower wales and there is about a 2 mm difference between the port and starboard side. I think my best bet also is to lineup the bow and stern so they match and I will fit the center as best as possible. Thanks for your insights it is real helpful as always.
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