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bountyhunter_04 wrote:I think muzzle plugs are the covers you see on the end of the cannon, its to stop and dirt/debris from gettin in there as it would make the cannon missfire or even blow it to peices... IMO anyhow  Ropey bits.....erm!! The most important function of the Tompion was to prevent moisture getting down the barrels of the guns when they were loaded. Ships of war had to be ready at all times and the guns were kept loaded with a powder charge and ball. If an enemy was sighted the tompion could be removed, together with the cover from over the lock mechanism and the gun was instantly ready for action. Mike T
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Mike T. thanks for info, maybe you do a bit of scanning, don't think copywright comes into this because of the 50year rule.could do with more info on boat bits terminology like 4 sheets to the wind,(never use the outside loo upwind)  Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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karl1113 wrote:Mike T. thanks for info, maybe you do a bit of scanning, don't think copywright comes into this because of the 50year rule.could do with more info on boat bits terminology like 4 sheets to the wind,(never use the outside loo upwind) Try this for a quick reply! Three sheets to the wind:
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A sheet was a rope used to control a sail. Usually four sheets were used to adjust (trim) a sail’s angle to the wind. If a sheet became damaged or was released, it was said to be ‘in the wind’, and the corner of the sail it was securing was left to flap about. The more sheets damaged or released the greater the sail billowed and the harder it became to regain control of the ship. The sayings ‘one sheet….’, ‘two sheets….’ and so on were used to describe various stages of drunkenness; a sailor described as being ‘three sheets in the wind’ would have been very drunk.Our language is peppered with sayings which were originally derived from the sea and sailors. Plymouth City CouncilThis site is my main source for what these sayings mean, but Stockwin's Maritime Miscellany also includes quite a few. It's a good book anyway. Mike T
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Mike Turpin wrote:karl1113 wrote:Mike T. thanks for info, maybe you do a bit of scanning, don't think copywright comes into this because of the 50year rule.could do with more info on boat bits terminology like 4 sheets to the wind,(never use the outside loo upwind) Try this for a quick reply! Three sheets to the wind:
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A sheet was a rope used to control a sail. Usually four sheets were used to adjust (trim) a sail’s angle to the wind. If a sheet became damaged or was released, it was said to be ‘in the wind’, and the corner of the sail it was securing was left to flap about. The more sheets damaged or released the greater the sail billowed and the harder it became to regain control of the ship. The sayings ‘one sheet….’, ‘two sheets….’ and so on were used to describe various stages of drunkenness; a sailor described as being ‘three sheets in the wind’ would have been very drunk.Our language is peppered with sayings which were originally derived from the sea and sailors. Plymouth City CouncilThis site is my main source for what these sayings mean, but Stockwin's Maritime Miscellany also includes quite a few. It's a good book anyway. Mike T Thanks for the explanation Mike, and also the link which I added to my toolbar should I need to know more, that's what I like about these old sayings and their possible point of origin, it makes it all much more enjoyable  John.W Current Builds: Deagostini HMS Victory: Deagostini HMS Sovereign of the seas. Completed Builds: Del Prado: HMAS Bounty: Hachette: RMS Titanic: Del Prado: Cutty Sark...
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There is also a good link on the Home page under 'Tutorials', just look down the list and click on a subject. There is a link to Naval Expressions which I was reading the other night, very enlightening.
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Fascinating.  I love discovering the derivations of our sayings and gestures, c.f. 2 fingers etc. I have just invested £5 on a paperback on Amazon about rigging. Thought I should start doing my homework before we get that far. Sort out me sheets from me shrouds so to speak.  Amazon should carry a financial health warning.  Ended up getting the Victory AND the Beagle Anatomies as well!! I think I may be going over the Project budget already. 
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Bounty hunter the muzzel cover are indeed needy, don't forget that these cannon are kept loaded all the time some miss directed fag end could have disasterous results  Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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Heartening to see some novices and great support and tolerance from the more experienced. I consider myself sort of novice in wood modelling. Only done the Del Prado Bounty and some Guillows balsa aircraft(many years ago). I have made plastic kits all my life. My family think a man of my age(57) shouldn't be playing around with ships and aeroplanes.I tell them there are a lot like me out there. Really looking forward to this build of the Victory.I am also doing the Lancaster as well. Haven't figured out where I am going to put them yet though as my house is really small. Jimmy L.
current builds : Lancaster 1/32 (Hachette)
Revell USS Kearsarge
Titanic Lifeboat
I started off with nothing and I've still got most of it left.
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