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i know that there has been a lot of discussion in the past about glue types, but i've just come across a great glue by accident. i've been using aliphatic glue for a while, but i always hate the slight yellow residue that it leaves. a little while ago i ran out very suddenly.............the dog chewed the bottle. i knew i had some other glue somewhere so started to use it. it's wickes weatherproof wood adhesive interior and exterior, and it,s basically aliphatic glue, at least it tastes the same, when i bite bits of it off my fingers, it is a white glue and does not leave the yellow residue, try it out it's a darn sight cheaper than buying aliphatic from cmb or other places, it definitely seems more like aliphatic than a normal pva Come on you Jimmies
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I will try it because you know I am a big fan of Aliphatic. thank you Mike  MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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saintsman123 wrote:i know that there has been a lot of discussion in the past about glue types, but i've just come across a great glue by accident.
i've been using aliphatic glue for a while, but i always hate the slight yellow residue that it leaves. a little while ago i ran out very suddenly.............the dog chewed the bottle. i knew i had some other glue somewhere so started to use it.
it's wickes weatherproof wood adhesive interior and exterior, and it,s basically aliphatic glue, at least it tastes the same, when i bite bits of it off my fingers, it is a white glue and does not leave the yellow residue, try it out it's a darn sight cheaper than buying aliphatic from cmb or other places, it definitely seems more like aliphatic than a normal pva whats the differance and benefit of aliphatic glue over normal pva? “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
-Mark Twain
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Hi Jase it has a Quick grab system, similar to no nails,its Shock and weatherproof, waterproof when fully cured over 24 hours, excellent sanding, fast drying longer assembly time for joints, high strength, will not stain woods, but will accept stain if required I could go on with more. Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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MWG wrote:Hi Jase it has a Quick grab system, similar to no nails,its Shock and weatherproof, waterproof when fully cured over 24 hours, excellent sanding, fast drying longer assembly time for joints, high strength, will not stain woods, but will accept stain if required I could go on with more. Mike well in that case i will giv it a go “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
-Mark Twain
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Hi Jase alphatic glue has better penetrating power than normal pva so hence a stronger joint, pva tends to have little penetration on a joint but still bonds well. The only downside of alphatic is the yellow staining it leaves behind when dry Andy Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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I missed the best point you can wipe off any residual with a damp cloth MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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It also depends on which make of aliphatic you use, some are very yellow others not so and dry almost clear., it dries harder than normal PVA wood glue which makes it better for sanding, has twice the strength and minimal shrinkage.
If you want a very strong weatherproof white PVA, then you wont go far wrong with 'Evo-Stik weatherproof wood adhesive' (blue bottle) which dries stronger than wood itself, dries clear and is fast setting.
As with the majority of 'weatherproof' adhesives (including aliphatic), they are unsuitable for use on joints subject to continuous water immersion unless the joint has been overpainted/sealed with a water repellant paint or sealer., be mindful of the difference between 'weatherproof' and 'waterproof'
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Tomick wrote:It also depends on which make of aliphatic you use, some are very yellow others not so and dry almost clear., it dries harder than normal PVA wood glue which makes it better for sanding, has twice the strength and minimal shrinkage.
If you want a very strong weatherproof white PVA, then you wont go far wrong with 'Evo-Stik weatherproof wood adhesive' (blue bottle) which dries stronger than wood itself, dries clear and is fast setting.
As with the majority of 'weatherproof' adhesives (including aliphatic), they are unsuitable for use on joints subject to continuous water immersion unless the joint has been overpainted/sealed with a water repellant paint or sealer., be mindful of the difference between 'weatherproof' and 'waterproof'
Thanks this is most helpfull “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
-Mark Twain
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hello there
since you are talking about wood glues and I can't seem to find
any post on wood glues so could someone tell me which wood glue is
best and where can I find it in the U.S. without ordering the admiralty
glues from CMB is titebond glues of I know where to get that
Ronald
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Hi Ronald, Titebond PVA will work very well on the Vic build. As will all PVA adhesives, make sure you wipe any excess glue away with a damp cloth. I tend to use the Aliphatic Rapid Glue Giant 500ml (Red bottle) available from CMB. Link here: http://www.cornwallmodel...catalog/wood_glues.html
Regards Alan
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Ok thanks again Alan
Ronald
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