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Hi Everyone I have decided to start another project - a scratch build of MV Port Adelaide...  Here is some information....  Can anyone advise me why I can only get 2 or 3 minutes typing time before everything disappears?...  Regards JohnP John Passmore attached the following image(s):
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Hi Everyone again The drawing is scaled 1:160 so things are going to be pretty small.... Most fittings such as windlass, cargo winches, davits, cranes, derricks and samson posts will have to be made... I have started building, using 3mm MDF for the Keel and Hull Frames. I will also use 2mm "bendy" ply and 1mm balsa for plating... More pics to follow. Regards JohnP
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Hi John Will be following with interest,really looking forward to seeing her come together Apparently she was 473 feet long so i imagine your hull will be just under a meter long which is a good size to work on A lot of the fittings at that scale can be small and fiddly so I will be watching and learning Cheers Stew
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Definitely sounds like your going to have your hands full with this one! But certainly an interesting project  Regards Gray
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John That looks a very interesting project you are starting. Really looking forward to your updates and seeing how it all progresses as this type of build is new to me. Hope it all goes well. Tony Happy Modelling
BUILDING: Hachette Spitfire Mk 1A, Constructo Mayflower
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budgie wrote: Hi John Will be following with interest,really looking forward to seeing her come together Apparently she was 473 feet long so i imagine your hull will be just under a meter long which is a good size to work on A lot of the fittings at that scale can be small and fiddly so I will be watching and learning Cheers Stew Hi Stew Thanks for looking in....yes, the model will be 93.5cm lth o/all x 12cm beam +/-.... There's a lot of nutting out to do... Regards JohnP
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CaptnBirdseye wrote: Definitely sounds like your going to have your hands full with this one! But certainly an interesting project Regards Gray Hi Gray Thanks for your insight - yeah, I've done a lot of thinking and wondering (how I'm gonna do it)...  But I've made a start on the keel. Pics following shortly. Regards JohnP
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birdaj2 wrote:John
That looks a very interesting project you are starting.
Really looking forward to your updates and seeing how it all progresses as this type of build is new to me.
Hope it all goes well.
Tony Hi Tony Thanks for the kind words of encouragement, and yes the build is very new to me as well... But I love ships of this period with all the cranes, derricks and winches everywhere - and with a bit of superstructure thrown in as well...  Regards JohnP
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Hi Everone I have the keel marked and cut out, using 3mm MDF which is quite easy to work with - so long as you're careful... I'm trying the old slotted method as used on SotS and hope it works out... Regards JohnP John Passmore attached the following image(s):
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Hi John looks like you are off to a good start Will be interested in how you make the frames from the body plan I get confused depending on who's diary you read... the body plan gives the maximum width of the hull so some say you have to reduce the frames to compensate for the thickness of the material used to "plank" the hull Some don't bother therefore I dither a lot  Lookin' forward to your next update
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John Good to see you making a start. I am also interested to see how those plans get turned into frames. Wish you well with it. Tony Happy Modelling
BUILDING: Hachette Spitfire Mk 1A, Constructo Mayflower
SUBSCRIPTION COMPLETE (Awaiting building): USS Constitution, Sovereign of the Seas, 1:200 Bismarck (Hachette)
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budgie wrote: Hi John looks like you are off to a good start Will be interested in how you make the frames from the body plan I get confused depending on who's diary you read... the body plan gives the maximum width of the hull so some say you have to reduce the frames to compensate for the thickness of the material used to "plank" the hull Some don't bother therefore I dither a lot Lookin' forward to your next update Hi Stew It doesn't really matter how it's done as the difference will be only +2mm max each side... I am forming precisely to the drawing and will be using 2mm bamboo for the planking.( lots left over from the Sovereign)... Regards JohnP
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birdaj2 wrote:John
Good to see you making a start.
I am also interested to see how those plans get turned into frames.
Wish you well with it.
Tony Hi Tony I made paper templates ( 2 for each profile ) then after taping together to form the total rib frame, I transposed to the MDF before cutting the rough shape with a coping saw... Then I fine shaped initially with metal files - round and half round coarse cut and sanding....This proved very tiring so I splashed out on a Dremel... Regards JohnP John Passmore attached the following image(s):
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You've certainly taken on a challenge with this one John and I'm sure you'll do a superb job with her. Looks as if you're off to a great start and I will definitely be following with a great deal of interest..... .. Good luck with the build.... Regards Alan
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Gandale wrote:You've certainly taken on a challenge with this one John and I'm sure you'll do a superb job with her. Looks as if you're off to a great start and I will definitely be following with a great deal of interest..... .. Good luck with the build.... Regards Alan Hi Alan Yes, you're right it all certainly needs a lot of forethought, I have cut all the rib frames but forgot to include in my previous post...  Thanks for the nice words of encouragement, much appreciated... Regards JohnP
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Hi Everyone I forgot the pics of the frames in my last post... The first 6 (bow frames) are going to need a lot of tickly fine tuning as they don't quite match the deck plans - some are too wide and some too narrow but all cut precisely to the frame plans... Regards JohnP John Passmore attached the following image(s):
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Hi John  looks nice and clean Noticed you have strips going across the frames is that for supporting the deck Also noticed you have cut out middle of frames are you thinking of r/c or is it just to keep the weight down and assist with planking
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Am seeing some really nice methodical work being done John, she's coming along very nicely.... Have a feeling I'm going to enjoy this build.... Regards Alan
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budgie wrote:Hi John looks nice and clean Noticed you have strips going across the frames is that for supporting the deck Also noticed you have cut out middle of frames are you thinking of r/c or is it just to keep the weight down and assist with planking Hi Stew The strips serve 2 purposes, strengthening and forming of the deck plates which are concave from the centreline to scupper each side to allow water draining... Pics below... What's r/c? The cutouts were made by cutting smaller frames from the inside the bigger ones... Rrgards JohnP
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Gandale wrote:Am see some really nice methodical work being done John, she's coming along very nicely.... Have a feeling I'm going to enjoy this build.... Regards Alan Hi Alan Thanks for the very nice comments. Yes, there is a lot of trial and error going on... I only have the one simple A0 size line drawing and the 2 photos to work from - plus a lot of detail stored in my memories of my seafareing days... Regards JohnP
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