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Alexhill
#1 Posted : 13 April 2010 18:14:06

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Just a quick note .. though in my view an important one. Check your keel and bulkheads to make sure that they are perfectly flat. Like many others I am waiting for the rest of the keel to arrive before begining the build in earnest. I just checked my 1st keel piece and it's not flat .. wetting it and placing it between 2 sure flat surfaces to dry and then weighting it down will fix this with little issue. If you start building with a false keel that is out of whack the rest of the model will follow suite.

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#2 Posted : 13 April 2010 18:23:37

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Alexhill wrote:
Just a quick note .. though in my view an important one. Check your keel and bulkheads to make sure that they are perfectly flat. Like many others I am waiting for the rest of the keel to arrive before begining the build in earnest. I just checked my 1st keel piece and it's not flat .. wetting it and placing it between 2 sure flat surfaces to dry and then weighting it down will fix this with little issue. If you start building with a false keel that is out of whack the rest of the model will follow suite.

Alex


Hi Alex, I have not unpacked any of the parts received so far as I too am waiting until I have the full false keel until I start my build, I will therefore have to check out the parts for such a deformity, thanks for the posting, as like you said, it is very important. ThumpUp John.W
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#3 Posted : 13 April 2010 19:17:40

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One thing that is becoming obvious from this forum is that we should take nothing for granted, its check and double check everything we do.
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Thanx for the tip Alex....i'll be sure to check mine when it arrives....BigGrin
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#5 Posted : 13 April 2010 20:35:51

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Yep thanks Alex. Like others I'm waiting until a fair way in to supply of the keel components before beginning the lon journey. in the meantime storage of said delivered components is critical to future ease of build. My packs are stored flat with no weight on top or abnormal shapes below.
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#6 Posted : 14 April 2010 22:51:28

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Just checked mine and its slightly out!! Have damped it down and put it between some tiles i had in the shed! Should be flat and heavy enough!!
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thanks i checked mine and one piece is like a bannanaBlushing how do i straiten it?
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#8 Posted : 15 April 2010 00:02:41

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give it a good soak .. maybe an hour or two in warm/hot water then place it between two good even flat surfaces and weight it down .. ideally tempered glass .. but tiles or even hardcover books can do the trick.

hope that helps

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The tiles worked a treat. All nice and flat now!!
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Just checked mine, 1 part slightly curved... Thanks for the tipsBigGrin
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#11 Posted : 17 April 2010 14:24:12

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I can understand the need for the keel to be straight as no one wants a banana boat, but just how exact ? Will the deck panels not correct any minor issues ? I haven't glued mine yet though just in case.
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axle396 wrote:
I can understand the need for the keel to be straight as no one wants a banana boat, but just how exact ? Will the deck panels not correct any minor issues ? I haven't glued mine yet though just in case.


To be honest, the more precise you are at the begining the easier the rest goes. Some of the early steps are very daunting, at least to me still. Making sure that the keel is straight, making sure the bulkheads are set right and making sure the rabbet (which likely won't be in the "destructions") is cut right are the three things that will help set your model apart. Some of it seems boring as after all it's only plywood and not the fun part.

However .. the keel and buklheads make the skeleton of your model .. if you have a skeleton that's off kilter then you have a good chance of the rest being off. It's the one part that I'd recommend everyone pay as much attention to before they move on to the next step.

Planking is a tough one too.. this isn't the easiest of hobbies, but it's easier than golf .. you just have to have patience.

The rewards really are great too .. when those that look at you like your from mars when you talk about what you are doing eventually see the fruits of your labor. The "your weird" looks turn into looks of admiration.

A bit of patience and the rest is easy .. and fun ;-)

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#13 Posted : 17 April 2010 18:42:59

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Cheers Alex for the reply. I'll certainly take your advice and take my time.Cool
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Its vitally important that the frame is as straight and true as possible,makes things much easier later in the build.
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#15 Posted : 17 April 2010 23:56:59

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thanks for the advice the missus went nuts when she saw me removing glass from a couple of picture frames Confused , I put it back after!! and it worked a treat thanksBigGrin
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#17 Posted : 18 April 2010 20:09:37

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Great bit of advice - I had naively assumed that the parts were actually flat.. Blink Blushing

*Goes off to check*

*springboard noises and muttering sounds*

*comes back*

....Thanks for the remedial tips. full steam ahead..
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Blink Will now open parts to check. Shame that as I will now have to startDrool
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#19 Posted : 18 April 2010 20:47:49

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#20 Posted : 18 April 2010 20:59:17

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Received my issue 3 today and an happy to say that my No:2 keel piece is nice and flat. One of the ribs in Issue 2 had a nick out of one edge (this is one that I got from the newsagent, not DeAgostini) and am not too worried because the one I did get today with issue 3 is OK.
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