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Hi all Recently subscribed to the 28 part Surprise build. Here are my first impressions and pics:  Parts 1 and 2  Parts 1 and 2  Part 3
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A few more pics:  Size comparison with the Endeavour Longboat, which is scaled at 1:50.  Am having real problems lining the deck up with mast positions. Did anyone have to sand the deck to get it to fit with the mast and frames?
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 hi Astronut i built a jig for false keel then glued the frames making sure sitting square once all dry i fitted the false deck OK The false deck is tight and may i suggest wetting the deck first this will make it more flexible and less likely to split (learnt that the hard way) The only sanding of the false deck was on the edges so they ran smooth with frame edges Hope this gives you some help
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Hi Astro You are doing a great build, I agree with Budgie you really need to set the keel, in a Dry Dock Jig using a base board and angle brackets Regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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I third that “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
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I forth that.as budgie has got past that prob. I would listen to him,if there was a prob.budgie found it,and has gained a lot of experience on the way.what may also help is when you have got the jig set up and if you have glued the ribs,soak the rib joins with a paint brush and hot water,this will free up the glue and placing the deck will be a lot easier and it also squares everything up better.then just let dry,provided it is placed in the jig,it should dry up all nice and square.good luck.this is the most important stage of the build,to make sure everything is square and straight. Current builds: SotS, USS Consitution, San Felipe, D51 loco, HMS Surprise, RB7, Arab Dhow, Jotika HMS Victory Completed builds: HMS Pickel, Thermopylae, Mississipi river boat, Mary Rose, Cutty Sark, San Francisco II, HMS Victory x5, Titanic Lifeboat, Panart HMS Victory Launch, Hachette Titanic, Virginia Schooner, Endeavour Longboat. http://www.model-space.com/gb/
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Love the look of the Surprise but should not bite of more than I can chew  Ger
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Already have the End longboat and the Akagi underway and my wife bought me the San Fran 2, someone told me that this was an addictive hobby but if I get any more ships I dont think that I will get any finished Ger
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Hi Ger I find it is best for me If I finish the Hull of each model first, working alternitavly between the ships Regards Mike  MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Thanks all for the advise on the jig, I'll knock one up this weekend. Can anybody tell me what comes with issue 4 if the kit? Many thanks
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 Memory not so clear those days but some issues are lacking in parts but other issues you get loads of stuff  so do not be disheartened (and i am a girnin' old fart) it's a big build for inspiration of what can be achieved may i suggest you follow HudsonRobert & Magpie build logs for inspiration Please bear in mind that not everyones build will be exact to each other due to material,enviroment, your measuring stick (left eye shut right eye 6/20 vision, your interpretation of colour etc) i got heehawed due to lack of plans, not for content, delivery, quality or help from admin MrT Magpie Hudson robert or from other forum members Wishing you every successs with your build but may i suggest this is a 5 anchor difficulty job so if you feel frustrated TAKE A STEPBACK ask the question on the forum and wait untill you feel ready to proceed Sorry for the long girn happy building
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astronut01 wrote:Thanks all for the advise on the jig, I'll knock one up this weekend.
Can anybody tell me what comes with issue 4 if the kit?
Many thanks
hi mate iam on issue 7 and in 4 and issue 5 you get more planks and in 6 you get a thing that the boat sits on for working on the boat hope that helps also in issue 7 is wallnut planks building the spitfire,RMS Titanic hachette and now starting the u-96 submarine
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Hi all thanks for all the tips. Managed to get the false deck in ok. Have started planking the false deck. Haven't decided whether to trenail it. I'm really enjoying this model.    Received notification that the next issue is on the way, that'll be number 4 for me, so I can get on to the hull. That's one of my favourite jobs! Kind regards
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you gotta trenail it cos it looks the bussiness on a boat that size. just clock robs and magpie , if that dont sway you dont know what will. while we are on the subject of decking ,anybody got a sure fire way of displaying the caulking. i have physically put rigging rope on earlier models but it can be finicky and limits sanding  .any of you guys great ideas will be deeply mulled over and implimented when the time comes. HMS Surprise
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I'll see how it goes. It's a lot of work to trenail this deck though, only for it to be covered over.
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Almost finished with the gun deck planking:   need to trim the overhangs and sand.
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Good stuff Astro Regards Mike MWG BUILD DIARIES: HMS VICTORY, SOVEREIGN OF THE SEAS, SAN FRANCISCO II, HMS HOOD, HMS ENDEAVOUR LONGBOAT, HMS VICTORY X-SECTION, 007 DB5, NISSAN GTR, CUTTY SARK, RB7, AKAGI, BARK HMS ENDEAVOUR, HUMMER H1, MITSUBISHI ZERO.
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Looking good, Just wait till you start the planking. Regards
Rob
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Built Flying Scotsman (Train). Collecting HMS VICTORY
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Does anybody know with what issue does the tool kit come with?
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I decided to trenail the false deck after all. I used a 0.5 mechanical pencil with a 2B lead: 
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