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tnequette
#1 Posted : 17 August 2022 22:58:12

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Friends,

I have enjoyed a great adventures with three great DeAg kits, the Samurai (really beautiful), the Capt America Harley ( probably the best kit and most enjoyable model I have ever built) and am finishing (two issues left) the GT40 which has been good but not great.

Is there a future with DeAg?. The Samba is now the only US kit. Collectables are cute but .. where is the imagination in front of us? I hesitate to purchase from them again as of now.

All wisdom would be appreciated. Even old farts need some fun and relaxation.

Respectfully,

Tom Nequette
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#2 Posted : 18 August 2022 02:09:14

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I am most concerned with completing active subscription... GT40

I admit to being anxious with EM going dark & now whatever is going on with DeAgostini/FanHome

Really happy the forum is back. I was a bit distraught over forum & phone being dark on monday 15Aug22, but I did get thru to FanHome. Supposed to be sorting last couple of GT40 packs.

As for going forward.... wow... I just... it will be hard to jump on another subscription anytime soon. I am not saying never but I am gonna hit the pause button for a while
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Subscription Complete : RB7, Fokker DR1, Ford GT40
S4Simon
#3 Posted : 18 August 2022 06:14:09

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We are entering a new age where the under 30's never really acquired the hand skills that the older generation use to live by. I'm a 50 something guy who took a trade as an Instrument Maker (Watch maker / Aircraft Instruments). I loved model building in the 70's and this was my future. These days people over 30 are more interested in IT / software. The hand skill specialists are being over run by geeks :-) My kids are approaching their 30s and have no interest in physically building stuff, unless it takes 5 minutes - Max. Younger people of today have no patience - they want everything yesterday and fully made - apart from Ikea stuff. I will be finishing my fourth build next month (All up, 2 from Deagostini and 2 from Hachette). All have been great builds and thoroughly enjoyable. I will be taking a break from the part works for a while. But my modelling desire will never wane.

I believe for the partworks community to continue the model companies have to produce (absolute) top end models to the finest quality that look like museum pieces. The last build I am shortly due to finish had a few shortfalls in engineering. Now a good model builder can work around these issues to produce a quality product, but a lot of other people have become frustrated with the results. This area of quality needs to be improved if they want to keep a healthy group of model builders. IMO the companies should send out complete kits to a few professional model builders so that they can display these builds on their official sites prior to going live. This would give potential builders the chance to look at the completed kit in different styles (weathered, clean, etc..)
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tnequette
#4 Posted : 18 August 2022 19:07:34

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I would ike to follow through just a bit more.

Look at our forum and the models discussed and being built. Few are parts work now and most are over the counter and catalog models. That's fine with me as going to the form has become a part of my everyday activities. But, I miss the chance to build different beautiful and exclusive models of quality as has been said here earlier.

Tom
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#5 Posted : 19 August 2022 06:10:47
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Hi Guys,

Let me address the OP and the following on comments in the following;

1) DeAgostini’s future is looking quite rosy to me. I’m not at all worried! I can’t share yet, but there are fun things coming!

2) the Eagle Moss business model was totally different than DeAgostini’s is. They were dependent on brick and mortar stores for distribution of their product, and were not centric on mail delivered subs. DeAgostini/FanHome/DeAgostini collectables is mostly mail subs. Add in that disaster that was the Enterprise E, and then Covid. Covid shut down the brick and mortar stores, which took out most of EMs revenue stream, and there you have it.

3) The GT40 packs are on the way, but I couldn’t tell you a time frame. They ship from China surface, and the container problem will rear its ugly head, then the trucking delays here in the States, ad neauseum.

4) “ IMO the companies should send out complete kits to a few professional model builders so that they can display these builds on their official sites prior to going live. This would give potential builders the chance to look at the completed kit in different styles (weathered, clean, etc..)”

This is why I’ve been pushing the modified builds. It shows what can be done with a bit of new techniques that are simple. BoJazz (Joe Bergman) and his GT40 build is a great example of this. I’m trying to get the modified builds to function as tutorials as well as just “show and tell.” Another thing I’ve done is that official builds are no longer written regurgitation of the build guides. I thought it far more appropriate that they be written by a MODELER, and will show how to solve the inevitable problems. You can’t beat first person build logs!

5) the “all the other stuff” builds but few partwork builds. This was deliberate on my part. The partwork industry as is still releasing great stuff. But, at a glacial pace. So, in an effort to maintain new content, and keep viewership up, I actively promoted and encouraged not only build logs of competitors product, but also of “regular”modeling. It’s by design that it is a more “one stop shop” in terms of content.

I am gratified that these humble forums were missed! I’ve really tried to make this a welcoming place, and comments like that let me know I’ve succeeded. So, thank you!

Best,

Mark
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mattsanf
#6 Posted : 19 August 2022 15:55:51
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That's good news...but I am also very worried about my 3/4 complete Jaguar E-Type subscription that has been stalled for nearly a year. I have been told various things by DeAg support that vary from "don't worry it's coming in a month (many months ago)" to "you are out of luck we won't be making the rest of the kit" to "we don't know but you will get it someday."

All I want is some clarity beyond "trust us." It is very frustrating.

Matt
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#7 Posted : 19 August 2022 18:39:25

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mattsanf wrote:
That's good news...but I am also very worried about my 3/4 complete Jaguar E-Type subscription that has been stalled for nearly a year. I have been told various things by DeAg support that vary from "don't worry it's coming in a month (many months ago)" to "you are out of luck we won't be making the rest of the kit" to "we don't know but you will get it someday."

All I want is some clarity beyond "trust us." It is very frustrating.

Matt


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#8 Posted : 06 September 2022 21:42:34

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I discovered DeAgostini when the Senna McLaren came out and jumped on it. When the Ford GT40 came out I bought and finished it. Lately, I've noticed disturbing things about DeAgostini. I have clicked on links and my Malware software will flag some of the sites as malicious and I shouldn't go there. Can anyone let me know what is going on? Model Space used to be very friendly and easy to navigate. Lately, I'm very nervous about going anywhere in the site. For example, why can't we go to a site and purchase any of the kits that were offered for years?
Thanks,
Dave
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#9 Posted : 06 September 2022 23:55:17

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davidyat wrote:
I discovered DeAgostini when the Senna McLaren came out and jumped on it. When the Ford GT40 came out I bought and finished it. Lately, I've noticed disturbing things about DeAgostini. I have clicked on links and my Malware software will flag some of the sites as malicious and I shouldn't go there. Can anyone let me know what is going on? Model Space used to be very friendly and easy to navigate. Lately, I'm very nervous about going anywhere in the site. For example, why can't we go to a site and purchase any of the kits that were offered for years?
Thanks,
Dave


Hi Dave,
Are you talking about the ModelSpace site, DeAgostini or Fanhome?
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#10 Posted : 07 September 2022 08:26:25

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As a follow-on to Mark's (Admin) comment, There are many 'custom' builds of the DeAgostini kits here which are intended to give members some idea and suggestions as how to add to, modify or improve the basic kits.

There are many 'official' custom builds of my own here - E Type Jaguar, Thunderbird 2, Porsche 911, VW Beetle and recently, the Ford GT40.
The intention is to suggest modifications that can mostly be done with little extra cost and in the main, no huge skill-set.

I have no doubt there are new kits in the pipeline the modified builds will continue to increase as members 'have a go' themselves.

Roy.
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#11 Posted : 07 September 2022 11:21:18

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admin wrote:
Hi Guys,

Let me address the OP and the following on comments in the following;

4) “ IMO the companies should send out complete kits to a few professional model builders so that they can display these builds on their official sites prior to going live. This would give potential builders the chance to look at the completed kit in different styles (weathered, clean, etc..)”

This is why I’ve been pushing the modified builds.

Best,

Mark


As the 'designated Official Builder' of the Mig 29, having waited in excess of 2 years for both parts and confirmation that this build will actually continue, i personally would rather just have some clarity on De Agostini's position regarding Official Builds as a whole
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#12 Posted : 07 September 2022 15:55:29
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CaptnBirdseye wrote:
admin wrote:
Hi Guys,

Let me address the OP and the following on comments in the following;

4) “ IMO the companies should send out complete kits to a few professional model builders so that they can display these builds on their official sites prior to going live. This would give potential builders the chance to look at the completed kit in different styles (weathered, clean, etc..)”

This is why I’ve been pushing the modified builds.

Best,

Mark


As the 'designated Official Builder' of the Mig 29, having waited in excess of 2 years for both parts and confirmation that this build will actually continue, i personally would rather just have some clarity on De Agostini's position regarding Official Builds as a whole



Wouldn’t we both!
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