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 not asked silly question for a while so here goes  while putting the ribs on the jig for the launch starting to worry bout planking more so in tapering noticed in biuld diary bout 14 planks used recieved 21 planks  are the xtras for cockups expected to be made by us newbies or are the xtra planks to be kept for later in build
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good question. there has not been much in the way of excess material so far so i would take your time and try not to make a leaky version first off. admin your answer please? “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
-Mark Twain
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I had 3 of the supports for the jig. Even I couldn't cock that up Maybe they use a slack handful as a measurement Follow my build to learn how to make firewood
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looking at pictures of people who have planked launch already no rear view so silly q time do we plank from bow up to transom not round it do we add plank to transom seperately or no planks at all hope i am not the only one pondering over this
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Hi budgie,
You should always retain any off-cuts left over, there are a couple of spare planks, and off-cuts also come into play later on, (not much more than a planks worth), and be careful not to confuse size of planks for the task being completed.
You don't plank across the Transom, only bow to edge of transom.
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I noticed on tomicks build that the launch planking was going to be a bit tricky and with me being a newbie ill prob cock it up. If you dont suceed at first go to the pub
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as much as i want to get stuck into the planking i am wating for the magazine so i can see the tips and the tool kit as i dont have a plank bender “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
-Mark Twain
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jase wrote:as much as i want to get stuck into the planking i am wating for the magazine so i can see the tips and the tool kit as i dont have a plank bender Hi Jase Talking of plank benders have a look at #83 onwards for alternatives to what I think is an expensive tool from Amati. In Tools For The JobMike T
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I think i would be better off if i go with your soldering iron idea Mike T....some of us may build only one wooden ship....(this one)....which would mean the eletric plank bender would have very limited use...  ..John....
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thanks for reply Tomick any chance of an idiot guide to planking step by step if poss ive been reading up on it & looking at pictures & ive convinced myself that its more difficult than it probably actualy is
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Here are some pictures of the launch at Portsmouth note the internal colour differences to the magazine model. Macmedal attached the following image(s):
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The Victory website provides guidance for the colours to use and states that the thwarts and sternsheets should be in a natural varnish, which is at odds with what they have done in your pictures! I think ships boats were finished in a variety of colours depending upon what the boatswain had in his stores or what could be obtained from the dockyard. I shall probably use yellow ochre, black and white as shown in the magazine but may well leave the thwarts and sternsheets in varnish. It will be interesting to see how our motley crew respond to this challenge! I haven't started my planking yet so will wait and see what the next set of instructions bring with regards to painting. However the question is easily answered by the natural finish brigade! Mike T
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Another Macmedal attached the following image(s):
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It also occurs to me to ask whether you have a bows on photo of the hull of the launch which might show us how the planking is arranged/shaped ?
Mike T
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budgie wrote: thanks for reply Tomick any chance of an idiot guide to planking step by step if poss ive been reading up on it & looking at pictures & ive convinced myself that its more difficult than it probably actualy is budgie, don't put yourself down by thinking that the task of planking will be too difficult, of course there is some difficulty with planking, but try practice on some spare planking. I use a soldering iron because I can easily work planks to the shape I want, I do not get my planking perfect every time, perhaps one out of three tries, but with a little patience and keeping an eye on the amount of pressure you apply to the plank during the process of shaping will go a long way. As I mentioned before, try obtaining some strakes from you local model shop and practising bending them to various degrees, getting a feel of the material and their tolerances. As they say, practice makes perfect, I'm not perfect at planking, and I dare guess that you will also get further good advice from our other shipmates regarding the subject. Good luck on you build mate.. Current Builds: Deagostini HMS Victory: Deagostini HMS Sovereign of the seas. Completed Builds: Del Prado: HMAS Bounty: Hachette: RMS Titanic: Del Prado: Cutty Sark...
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No I do not hve a bows on photo.However this photo is taken from the oficial HMS Victory website. Macmedal attached the following image(s):
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True I forgot that one, but the plank lines don't stand out very well Heigh Ho
Mike T
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Does anyone know what woods were utilised in the making of the real launch? Edit: @ Mike T This pic may help  Whilst it isn't the launch, it does give a (slightly) better idea of the way that the planks meet at the bow. Schnellboots on back burner
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Hi Stedders
Another picture I have looked at, what we really need are some plans drawn to a specification. I will keep looking.
To answer your question from wikipedia:
Keel and frames are traditionally made of hardwoods such as oak while planking can be oak but is more often softwood such as pine, larch or cedar.
The Georgian boatyards would have had oak and pine from the Baltic for certain.
Mike T
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