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Hello Everyone, I bought issue 1 yesterday and have now decided to collect these issues as I have wanted to build this model for a while now. Part one comes with the entire false keel and 4 frames plus the flag and rigging which you probably wont need for 2 years  The instructions look very good, and although there are references to take care with knives etc, the kit is actually aimed at adults with children building alongside under supervision. The mdf quality seems very good - there are no references to mdf safety anywhere in the mag so I would have to assume that this is the mdf made in Europe under strict regulations,ie, ultra low or zero formaldehyde emissions. I will be collecting issues for a while, at least until I get all the frames but as there are only 15 frames and I have 4 already this may be sooner than I thought Steve stevie_o attached the following image(s):
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That said, ALL dust, regardless of whether it comes from MDF or any other material, is potentially harmful, and therefore precaution should be taken when sanding or spraying. Also formaldehyde occurs naturally in wood, therefore zero formaldehyde is not the case.
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Tomick wrote:That said, ALL dust, regardless of whether it comes from MDF or any other material, is potentially harmful, and therefore precaution should be taken when sanding or spraying. Also formaldehyde occurs naturally in wood, therefore zero formaldehyde is not the case. That's correct, I actually meant zero formaldehyde used in the binding agent during manufacture Also, there may well be a warning about the dust when they get to the issue where you have to sand the frames Steve
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Hi Steve, Think you will do this kit justice - no doubt. Will be waiting with baited breath.  Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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BTW, I plan to have mine the grey colour with weathering and it is also going to be my first venture with lighting - all that cabin and below deck detail will look great with some flickering candle light Steve
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Hi Steve Nice start, one word of warning about the MDF try and find out where it was made this should answer the formaldehyde question, basicley the further east you go the less likely it is to be the safe stuff regards Andy  Current builds:-C57,Zero, Lamborghini Countach, Caldercraft HMS Agamemnon,Robi,R2-D2, MFH Cobra .
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Hi Steve, Take a look at microminiatures. They do flicker units for dolls houses. These are meant to replicate candles and oil lamps. Here`s a link. Flicker UnitRegards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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stevie_o wrote:Tomick wrote:That said, ALL dust, regardless of whether it comes from MDF or any other material, is potentially harmful, and therefore precaution should be taken when sanding or spraying. Also formaldehyde occurs naturally in wood, therefore zero formaldehyde is not the case. That's correct, I actually meant zero formaldehyde used in the binding agent during manufacture Also, there may well be a warning about the dust when they get to the issue where you have to sand the frames Steve Issue 1 tells you to sand the internal and external edges of the frames 
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delboy271155 wrote:Hi Steve, Think you will do this kit justice - no doubt. Will be waiting with baited breath. Regards delboy271155 (Derek) Much safer to put a respirator on than hold your breath  “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
-Mark Twain
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Hi Stevie, will be following this one as you progress..... Just take care and definitely use a mask when sanding..... Regards Alan
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Rustins have a quick drying MDF clear sealer that allows the application of both paints or varnishes, unlike MDF primers which can only be painted.
http://www.rustins.eu/Details.asp?ProductID=773
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Hi Steve, you bit the bullet then! Like you I have been wanting to do the Black Pearl for ages, but really didn't fancy going the Chinese way, Well that makes 2 English builders on here so far, I am going to stock up on parts first before I make a proper start, (Just glued keel up!!! ) Thanks Mr T for the link, I have used the rustins stuff a lot but only on big pieces (8ftx4ft), cant see it being a problem on this, if anything it will keep the moisture out. Enjoy the build Steve, Its time for the curse again!!! Happy Building, Russ On the workbench: My Victory Build Diary - Victory Cross Section Build Diary - Black Pearl Build DiaryUnder the Bench: Millenium Falcon, Black Pearl x 2, Coral Victory Cross Section, De Lorean
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Yes Russ, will be waiting a while, will be hard though . I had been dithering about buying the chinese one but replace all the stripwood with better quality (the 2010 version which looked OK). Then I thought about the Zvezda plastic kit which is supposed to be very good....and then this came along just at the right moment Cheers Steve
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Hello mate, will be watching with interest!!! Just subscribed myself:) Jay _____________________________________
Currently building:-
Deagostini HMS Victory
Amati Black Pearl
Mamoli HMS Victory 1:90 Scale
Caldercraft HMS Victory 1:72
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Yup i have taken the plunge too. ..hopefully pick up part two tomorrow...from the newsagent i have the keel assembled and mounted on a jig..
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I started my sub at issue 4 and am collecting the first 3 from newsagents, anyway picked up issue 2 today and was very pleased with the figurehead, nice quality and looking at the build pics it wont even need painting stevie_o attached the following image(s):
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stevie_o wrote:I started my sub at issue 4 and am collecting the first 3 from newsagents, anyway picked up issue 2 today and was very pleased with the figurehead, nice quality and looking at the build pics it wont even need painting Hi Steve, Now that figure head looks the real deal,  My thoughts are, why supply that item so far in advance? Are they trying to snare people into a complete subscription that may not be completed if interest runs out? I really hope that is not the case but, I havn`t seen anywhere that they say all parts are guaranteed as Deag do.(That`s why I`ve not started this build) I don`t want to put you off by any extent but perhaps I`m a sceptic and don`t trust anyone. Interested in your thoughts Regards delboy271155 (Derek) COME BACK GUY FAWKES "YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU"
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Del, once a series has been announced as a national realease, it will run its full course. Things like this are often provided at the start of a series as enticement to continue and to get a flavour of what is to come, it also breaks up endless issues of MDF frames.
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Hi Stevie, love the figurehead.... hope the rest of the build has the quality that is just as good..... Will be watching.... Regards Alan
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@Del, the order that the parts come in a partwork never seems to be logical Im sure there are people who put a lot of work into deciding what comes in what issues, I think its a combination of letting the builder progress each week plus keep up the interest in the build for the future. @Alan - It is a nice figurehead though, I was surprised. Like I said previously I wont be starting this for a while, My Vic is due to complete in April so maybe then when I have plenty of parts. I also need to have a good look into lighting etc. Steve
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